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Old Jan 19, 2017 | 10:43 AM
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Worn out suspension?

I was just told that the stock suspension on my 2000 x was worn out because the front leaf springs were flat instead of being a little curved upward. Does this sound right? It makes since that after 17 years the suspension would be worn out but didn't know what it looked like factory. I bought it when it was 13 years old and the front springs were flat then so I assumed that's the way it was suppose to be. what do you guys think?
 
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Old Jan 19, 2017 | 11:11 AM
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The front springs are basically flat on my X codes. My stock springs actually had an inverted arch they sagged so much.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2017 | 11:14 AM
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The front leaf springs on these trucks have a very flat arch, even when they are brand new. If the springs are starting to bend backwards and the bump stops are starting to hit then that usually hints the front suspension is tired and fatigued.

IMO these trucks have very underrated springs both front and rear. A good way to figure out if the springs are in need of replacing is checking out the ride quality. Are you feeling like the front is "bouncing", swaying or anything like that?

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Old Jan 19, 2017 | 11:22 AM
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Yea I hit my bump stops all the time and even after I changed the shocks it still bounces excessively
 
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Old Jan 19, 2017 | 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by sig1911
Yea I hit my bump stops all the time and even after I changed the shocks it still bounces excessively
If you want information overload, go to the tech folder sticky thread, hit the suspension section, and start reading.

If you don't, and just wanna replace worn out springs, Call Junior at ATS. He's helped many a forum member out and he's a Supporting Vendor.

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Old Jan 19, 2017 | 12:40 PM
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If you want information overload, go to the tech folder sticky thread, hit the suspension section, and start reading.

If you don't, and just wanna replace worn out springs, Call Junior at ATS. He's helped many a forum member out and he's a Supporting Vendor.

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With all the homework you have to do on other parts of the truck, calling ATS to get springs is so easy it almost feels like cheating.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2017 | 01:07 PM
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With all the homework you have to do on other parts of the truck, calling ATS to get springs is so easy it almost feels like cheating.
The homework is for guys who like the huts and bolts, or are in the mood for a DIY kinda thing.

Aint nothing wrong with cutting to the chase.

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Old Jan 19, 2017 | 01:16 PM
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Yep, front leaves are flat, or nearly so. The springs are actually doing the job that a lot of folks think shocks do, the old name for shocks was "dampers", they attenuate or kill oscillations after a bump or dip. If the springs are worn out, shocks won't help much and will wear out quickly. Worn shocks in turn are hard on suspension too.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2017 | 01:30 PM
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I just looked and my front springs are actually sagging down. Do you guys see any problems with the rear springs wearing out on these. Just wondering if I should go ahead and replace them too
 
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Old Jan 19, 2017 | 01:37 PM
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Normally, the rear leaf springs hold up fine over time. If you tow or want a lift, there a many options to upgrade. Our tech folder has thread links that go into detail depending on your needs.

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Old Jan 19, 2017 | 01:45 PM
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Ok I just looked in the tech folder under the excursion and didn't see that. I will look again must have missed it
 
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Originally Posted by sig1911
I was just told that the stock suspension on my 2000 x was worn out because the front leaf springs were flat instead of being a little curved upward. Does this sound right? It makes since that after 17 years the suspension would be worn out but didn't know what it looked like factory. I bought it when it was 13 years old and the front springs were flat then so I assumed that's the way it was suppose to be. what do you guys think?

if you think they are sagging, take it to a real suspension shop, have them inspect and if needed, they can pull & and re-arc (hot process only) the springs, re-install and they be good for another 17 years.....
 
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Old Jan 19, 2017 | 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by sig1911
Ok I just looked in the tech folder under the excursion and didn't see that. I will look again must have missed it
Scroll all the way down to the second post where it say's "Tech Folder Continued."

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Old Jan 19, 2017 | 02:47 PM
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Sounds like a candidate for the V/B swap!
 
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Old Jan 19, 2017 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by robert_l_ross
Sounds like a candidate for the V/B swap!
What's that
 
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