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Old Jan 1, 2017 | 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by tseekins
This is an old article but still on point to Tom's discussion. As of late 2014 when the 2015' were about to arrive, Ford was projecting a sales breakdown of 28% 5L, 28% of the 2.7L and 28% of the 3.5L ecoboost leaving about 15% for the 3.5L N/A.

As of June 2016 Ford had sold it's 1,000,000th ecoboost F-150. There are plenty of 3.5L EB's out there in other Taurus based platforms.

The point here that Tom has posted a pretty equal number of failures but when considering the sheer volume of GTDI engines sold in the F-150, it seems that the 3.5L EB may have a pretty low failure rate after all.
No matter who's numbers you use, there are a LOT of them out there. I'm happy to include the new 2.7L engine in this if anyone can dig up any failures. Lots of 5.0L engines out there as well between the F150 and the Mustang. So far I can't find any 2014 or later 5.0L failures, which sort of points to a manufacturing issue that's been addressed. Likewise with the EcoBoost engine, the failures are predominantly 2011 and 2012 model years.

I'll keep digging and see what I can find. I'm searching various forums for keywords "compression", "blown", "block", and a few others.
 
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Old Jan 2, 2017 | 01:54 PM
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Could it be that 13/14 models have not accrued enough miles for failure yet?

None of the standard ecoboost engine issues were corrected in the 11-14 F150 version. They attempted fixes, but condensate issues and misfires were still occurring.
 
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Old Jan 2, 2017 | 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by 93Cobra
Could it be that 13/14 models gave not accrued enough miles for failure yet?

None of the standard ecoboost engine issues were corrected in the 11-14 F150 version. They attempted fixes, but condensate issues and misfires were still occurring.
Perhaps, in post 9 I linked a 2014 EcoBoost that blew up at 64,000 miles. It's not easy to find a lot of failures with either engine.
 
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Old Jan 2, 2017 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 93Cobra
Could it be that 13/14 models gave not accrued enough miles for failure yet?

None of the standard ecoboost engine issues were corrected in the 11-14 F150 version. They attempted fixes, but condensate issues and misfires were still occurring.
As Tom stated in his OP, this isn't about misfires, it's about failures. There are several 5L owners who have had to do plug changes early due to misfires, change water pumps, dealt with electrical issues, etc but none of them are listed as failures as the engine wasn't replaced.

No one here (except you) is saying that the one engine is better than the other. Since 2011 when Ford changed all the engines in the F-150, well over 1,000,000 trucks have been produced, probably closer to 1.4 and the overall failure rate is quite low.
 
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Old Jan 22, 2017 | 07:58 AM
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Stumbled upon an EcoBoost failure on YouTube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrW7T3OgxOk

2011 EB with a bent rod at 65,000 miles. Blamed on hydrolock.
 
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Old Jan 22, 2017 | 08:56 AM
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I just finished watching this video. And I couldn't even imagine doing that R&R. I'm curious what these new long blocks cost for any of the gasoline engines. Myself, I'd most likely take it in the shorts, and get rid of it
 
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Old Jan 22, 2017 | 09:04 AM
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I just finished watching this video. And I couldn't even imagine doing that R&R. I'm curious what these new long blocks cost for any of the gasoline engines. Myself, I'd most likely take it in the shorts, and get rid of it
Nah, getting rid of it would be throwing good money after bad. Looks like you can get a short block for as little as $1,300 at Autonation Ford. Complete engine is $4,780.
 
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Old Jan 22, 2017 | 09:34 AM
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Nice thread Tom. I'm on 4 Forums so I'll keep an eye out for any additions in either direction.
 
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Old Jan 22, 2017 | 09:50 AM
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Interesting. But IMHO, the long term will tell you if the engines are holding up. and what I mean by long term is 10-15 years and 150+k. 150k in 3-4 years is nothing.
 
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Old Jan 22, 2017 | 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by 93Cobra
Could it be that 13/14 models have not accrued enough miles for failure yet?

None of the standard ecoboost engine issues were corrected in the 11-14 F150 version. They attempted fixes, but condensate issues and misfires were still occurring.
Mickey mouse stuff. I dont worry about that stuff. Over all, the ecoboosts are holding up very well. (I know you dont like them). Im not even going by feelings or opinions............ Fact is, they are many more good ones than bad ones.
 
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Old Jan 22, 2017 | 11:57 AM
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Nah, getting rid of it would be throwing good money after bad. Looks like you can get a short block for as little as $1,300 at Autonation Ford. Complete engine is $4,780.

I would have guess 3 times that amount for a long block.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2017 | 06:35 PM
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Another EcoBoost failure to add...2011 with 105,000 miles. Appears that an unrepaired timing chain problem killed it. I think the big takeaway from this is don't wait if you hear a startup rattle!

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...l#post16914960

Originally Posted by Okanagan_lifestyle
Just heard word from the dealership that a timing issue and phaser issue is just the start of my new problems. I need a new long block they figure, although they haven't gone all the way I. To discover what the knock issue is coming from. My quote was $10,000 CAD for a new one. It's the 3.5 turbo eco boost. salvaged and rebuilt ones are proving impossible to find due to this issue apparently becoming quite common. Found one salvaged one for $4500 but it's "slightly damaged" from an accident. I'm pretty green in the engine game, and am starting to explore a rebuild with a company in town.
Has anyone else gone this route and know rough costs? Trying to keep this at $5000 max repair. I'm guessing labour is going to smoke me too.
 
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Wow!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Old Feb 3, 2017 | 07:33 PM
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Wow!!!!!!!!!!!
No kidding....some folks are probably holding off on a rattling engine because of the out of warranty cost. Absolutely not worth the risk IMHO...my truck would be at the shop within a week if it made noises like that out of warranty.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2017 | 03:48 AM
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Up with back pain and reading through forums on my phone. Here's a '16 5.0L failure with only 3,100 miles.

http://www.f150forum.com/f118/2016-f...371136/index5/

Waiting on an engine as of yesterday. This one's clearly a manufacturing issue of some flavor.
 
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