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Old Dec 26, 2016 | 12:51 PM
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Automatic transmission seperator plate

I switched over a 302 manual transmission over to a 351w C6 automatic transmission will the seperator plate work out of the manual ?
 
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Old Dec 26, 2016 | 02:54 PM
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I switched over a 302 manual transmission over to a 351w C6 automatic transmission will the seperator plate work out of the manual ?
No, you will need the specific A/T 302/351W engine rear plate.
 
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Old Dec 26, 2016 | 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
No, you will need the specific A/T 302/351W engine rear plate.
Would you know why that is?
I can see 2 different parts & numbers but the only thing I can see maybe being different is the auto plate being open at the bottom to get to the converter bolts, then there is a 2nd plate to cover this hole.


The MT would be a full plate covering the bottom as there is no need to get to the converter bolts as there are none.
Am I wrong?


If that is the case he could use the AT plate with a MT with no mods or the MT plate on an auto and cut the bottom open to get to the converter bolts then bolt it back in place.


I also heard/seen posted 2 different starters between the AT & MT trucks.
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Old Dec 26, 2016 | 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by FuzzFace2
Would you know why that is?
I can see 2 different parts & numbers but the only thing I can see maybe being different is the auto plate being open at the bottom to get to the converter bolts, then there is a 2nd plate to cover this hole.


The MT would be a full plate covering the bottom as there is no need to get to the converter bolts as there are none.
Am I wrong?


If that is the case he could use the AT plate with a MT with no mods or the MT plate on an auto and cut the bottom open to get to the converter bolts then bolt it back in place.


I also heard/seen posted 2 different starters between the AT & MT trucks.
Dave ----
Engine Plates - ???Gary's Garagemahal

Flywheels & Starters - ???Gary's Garagemahal
 
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Old Dec 26, 2016 | 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Gary Lewis
I see the part numbers for the M/T plates, but not the ones for A/T

The A/T plate for the OP's application: D8DZ-7007-A
 
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Old Dec 26, 2016 | 09:32 PM
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Good catch, Bill. I'll fix that. Thanks!
 
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Old Dec 27, 2016 | 04:29 AM
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Originally Posted by FuzzFace2
Would you know why that is?
I can see 2 different parts & numbers but the only thing I can see maybe being different is the auto plate being open at the bottom to get to the converter bolts, then there is a 2nd plate to cover this hole.


The MT would be a full plate covering the bottom as there is no need to get to the converter bolts as there are none.
Am I wrong?


If that is the case he could use the AT plate with a MT with no mods or the MT plate on an auto and cut the bottom open to get to the converter bolts then bolt it back in place.


I also heard/seen posted 2 different starters between the AT & MT trucks.
Dave ----
Of course I don't know the specific reason to this case, but as for differences, you could add 157 vs 164 tooth flywheel/flexplate to that list. Changes the starter location with respect to crank centerline.
 
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Old Dec 27, 2016 | 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by NotEnoughTrucks2014
Of course I don't know the specific reason to this case, but as for differences, you could add 157 vs 164 tooth flywheel/flexplate to that list. Changes the starter location with respect to crank centerline.
Goop point!
But is it in the plates OR the starters OR both?
I ask because we e know they make 2 different starters and 1 can not be used in the others place.

I had 2 plates for my 300 six and when I put them together the starter openings were way off.
I didn't take a picture but one was for MT the other for AT.

the other thing I found strange was the AT one was aluminum the MT was steel. Aluminum had no part number but the steel one did just can't post it now.
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Saw a pic somewhere with the 157 and 164 tooth plates overlaid. It was pretty obvious that the starter was relocated. Keep in mind, the starter bolts to the transmission, so the whole combination of transmission/flex plate or flywheel/ engine plate must stay either 157 or 164 tooth count. I believe the starters will interchange and the difference in snout length is for manual or automatic transmission.
 
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Old Dec 30, 2016 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
I see the part numbers for the M/T plates, but not the ones for A/T

The A/T plate for the OP's application: DZ-7007-A
Fixed it: Engine Plates - ???Gary's Garagemahal
 
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Originally Posted by Gary Lewis
When 8D is typed, you get that smilie face unless you disable smilies in text (as I just did).
 
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Old Dec 31, 2016 | 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
When is typed, you get that smilie face unless you disable smilies in text (as I just did).
So that's what does that! I'm so technically-challenged, so I'm glad you helped me with that.

Seriously though, I think I have the engine plates and fuses/breakers/fuse links sorted. Thanks for the suggestions.
 
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