Cheap paint!!!
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thanks for youre service . I hope we all are proven to have the best of the best . only time will tell .. enjoy youre retirement, oviously being a surgean n all . money is no object .. I myself work too am hard , for far less , when I drop, 100 k , witch is what my truck cost finished , my way of course . I really hate to hear nothing but high quality this unit is suppose to be .. certainly don't expect to hear . how not knock youre feet off , cause dents the rockers , or paint that's so thin , it chips from the wind ,ect .. we have choices , and ill buy the best that money can buy ,, not something claiming to be ,and falling short .. to safe money for profits .. lets not bullchit no one . less paint saves money .. not fuel .. thin aluminum saves money , but dents easily . I was optimistic coming back to a ford .. I might have made a 100 k mistake .. my last denali was 86 k clear title , I got 20 k extra into this truck , I need a good resale ,if I decide to short keep this truck . I am concearned about my investment , but oh well it is only a truck .. and honestly I love the looks ,power ,ect , now it needs to perform ... mery chrismas to all .
Gosh, maybe I am too dang easy to please but I doubt it. Age 60, 20-25 new Audis over the years of various 'A's, 'S's, 'RS' s, 'Q's and several pickups etc etc and thus far I am absolutely thrilled with my 2017 F450 in the first 6-8 weeks and 3800 miles. I may quit reading the negative threads so as to avoid prejudicial impressions being emphasized. As a physician(surgeon) you can do a million things correctly without acknowledgement and have one not so good outcome occur and have your career defined by it as many of my colleagues have experienced and what I am hoping to avoid as I approach retirement. Therefore, I will remain positive and continue to enjoy my luxurious beast especially during a hopeful and blessed Christmas season until I am personally proven wrong. Merry Christmas everyone!!
P.S. I hate quality lapses as much as everyone and will not tolerate systemic problems anymore than others--I just remain optimistic until proven wrong.
P.S. I hate quality lapses as much as everyone and will not tolerate systemic problems anymore than others--I just remain optimistic until proven wrong.
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From: Iowa
kthanks for youre service . I hope we all are proven to have the best of the best . only time will tell .. enjoy youre retirement, oviously being a surgean n all . money is no object .. I myself work too am hard , for far less , when I drop, 100 k , witch is what my truck cost finished , my way of course . I really hate to hear nothing but high quality this unit is suppose to be .. certainly don't expect to hear . how not knock youre feet off , cause dents the rockers , or paint that's so thin , it chips from the wind ,ect .. we have choices , and ill buy the best that money can buy ,, not something claiming to be ,and falling short .. to safe money for profits .. lets not bullchit no one . less paint saves money .. not fuel .. thin aluminum saves money , but dents easily . I was optimistic coming back to a ford .. I might have made a 100 k mistake .. my last denali was 86 k clear title , I got 20 k extra into this truck , I need a good resale ,if I decide to short keep this truck . I am concearned about my investment , but oh well it is only a truck .. and honestly I love the looks ,power ,ect , now it needs to perform ... mery chrismas to all .
Love your truck!! Thankfully(I think) my "main" personal weakness/vice over the years has been new vehicles(an unwise "investment" to be sure) and is one reason why I am still working at age 60
or maybe it is because I do for the most part enjoy what I do and am pretty good at it I am told.
Nevertheless, although I live comfortably I also believe in owning only the best and expect it will be the best otherwise my money was really unwisely spent( I am a Dutchman also). If it proves not to be well spent by PERSONAL EXPERIENCE then I will speak with my next purchase(a true capitalist at heart).
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From: Alberta
Sorry RJC2, I should have re worded the title, the paint it self is amazing! The job that was done on the truck is crap, thin and I assume will be flaking off our trucks in no time.
i fear how bad a simple hail storm will devastate this truck
i fear how bad a simple hail storm will devastate this truck
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I must be missing something. Paint doesn't chip because it's thin. If anything, thick paint would be more prone to chipping. Chipping would be caused by the prep work and solvents that the paint has to bond to. Thin paint would cause uneven paint color. So if you have even coverage and a solid paint color, then the paint is thick enough.
You may be able to get the dealer to pay if you can go there and chip off a piece with your fingernail. That would show a bad base prep. That might be your only avenue. Good luck..
You may be able to get the dealer to pay if you can go there and chip off a piece with your fingernail. That would show a bad base prep. That might be your only avenue. Good luck..
Laughing Gas
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From: California Mountains
its not cause paint is thin
They want you to pay there fee for paint or wax the additives in called polymer harden the clear coat since water base paints don't harden until some brand of pre-oat or Synthetic wax is used thats why until then they will scratch very easy thats why until a couple good coats of wax your new super will look streak even washed and rinsed thoroughly
Laughing Gas
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From: California Mountains
the pre- coat help harden the clear coat
Only one chip on my bumper after 3800 miles that I touched up a few days ago. Otherwise seems about like the multiple other vehicles I have owned. But I will keep a closer look out now. I did do a Swissvax prep coat and then a Swissvax wax coat as soon as I got it. Not sure if that makes a difference or not.
All you need is a Meguiar's Ultimate liquid wax and you will save a lot of grief in the long run
Good luck if your drive your truck thousands of miles with no paint protection
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well my very 1st oil change warning came up! And I desired to hand dry my truck after a truck wash, and then getting up and close I noticed there must be at least 200 or more paint chips on my front bumper alone! But not just there, all over the truck! Is there going to be any paint left in a year? At what point is it a warrantee issue?
Edited to add: Merry Christmas, all!
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From: northern ontario
I have had painted bumpers on 3 super dutys so far and all of them I have gotten them coated with 3m clear protective film work great and did not yellow my 2007 lariat outlaw is still in town and the front bumper still looks great
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From: northern ontario
I must be missing something. Paint doesn't chip because it's thin. If anything, thick paint would be more prone to chipping. Chipping would be caused by the prep work and solvents that the paint has to bond to. Thin paint would cause uneven paint color. So if you have even coverage and a solid paint color, then the paint is thick enough.
You may be able to get the dealer to pay if you can go there and chip off a piece with your fingernail. That would show a bad base prep. That might be your only avenue. Good luck..
You may be able to get the dealer to pay if you can go there and chip off a piece with your fingernail. That would show a bad base prep. That might be your only avenue. Good luck..
So there may be hope for your truck to be covered
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From: Iowa
Again I need enlightening. Are you saying that the paint prep from Swissvax followed by their specific white paint wax is inferior to Megular's? When I checked with Swissvax I heard audible laughing in their response. I want the best on my truck and have done this routine before with excellent results so again enlighten me please.
Laughing Gas
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From: California Mountains
no swiss wax is good
Again I need enlightening. Are you saying that the paint prep from Swissvax followed by their specific white paint wax is inferior to Megular's? When I checked with Swissvax I heard audible laughing in their response. I want the best on my truck and have done this routine before with excellent results so again enlighten me please.
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Again I need enlightening. Are you saying that the paint prep from Swissvax followed by their specific white paint wax is inferior to Megular's? When I checked with Swissvax I heard audible laughing in their response. I want the best on my truck and have done this routine before with excellent results so again enlighten me please.
The clear coat is as good as it's going to get when you receive your truck.
Products are meant to protect the paint from UV and environmental hazards.
They will not help with flying rocks.
I have had good luck with Meguir's polymer waxes. But they are a pain to work with.
Laughing Gas
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From: California Mountains
I beg to differ water based paints and clear are in a world of there own.
No wax is going to "harden" the clear coat.
The clear coat is as good as it's going to get when you receive your truck.
Products are meant to protect the paint from UV and environmental hazards.
They will not help with flying rocks.
I have had good luck with Meguir's polymer waxes. But they are a pain to work with.
The clear coat is as good as it's going to get when you receive your truck.
Products are meant to protect the paint from UV and environmental hazards.
They will not help with flying rocks.
I have had good luck with Meguir's polymer waxes. But they are a pain to work with.
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From: Iowa
Got it, Thanks FONRDAY, I know it is overpriced but having used it on cars over the years it does give a long lasting shine and water beading and protection so maybe in the long run it is worth it. I don't know. You initially had me worried thinking I was not protecting as well as I thought. Thanks for the followup.
Laughing Gas
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From: California Mountains
Got it, Thanks FONRDAY, I know it is overpriced but having used it on cars over the years it does give a long lasting shine and water beading and protection so maybe in the long run it is worth it. I don't know. You initially had me worried thinking I was not protecting as well as I thought. Thanks for the followup.
swiss stays on paint longer than any out there 78% Vol. of pure yellow coloured Grade One Carnauba wax from Brazil yeah buddy LOL