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There's probably another place to post this, but I don't really care too much as this is here my buds are.
TIT is considering an automotive training career at UTI.
Give me some input....
I don't know that TIT is. I recommend TSTC in Waco for automotive training. My stepson went there about 10 years ago, and I went there in 70s when it was TSTI.
I have had friends, and others in the industry say UTI is a huge waste of time/money.
If he wants to be in that field, I think the community colleges probably offer better instruction. Otherwise, it just takes experience.
2X. I am afraid Teach that I have heard the same thing. But this may only be here in Arizona. If I were him I would go around to some of the better and bigger shops that have a good customer feedback. In person talk to the Managers and ask if they hire young Men and Women out of UTI. If they say yes with good grades, Great. If their eyes fall to the ground and they start stammer stuttering (not wanting to admit No) then there is your answer.
Hotrod Institute in Rapid City SD. Then you can work on fun stuff!! If you just want to be a tech, specialize and remember, the money is not under the hood.
Another avenue is get a job at a good dealership as an helper. If you have potential, they will see it and start sending you to schools. Make money while you learn. In a couple years you might be better off. Many dealerships work their techs in teams so you can work side by side with a good tech, learn more than all the generalized theory stuff they want to teach at institutes. Then you also get about a months school a year and get paid to go.
My parents saved all through my childhood for my college education. When I was in high school and discovered cars (and girls) I announced I wanted to be an automotive mechanic. My old man sat me down and said go to college son, you'll end up making enough money to enjoy tinkering with cars as a hobby the rest of your life.
My bro in law is an Industrial mechanic (Millright). They are in high demand around here and union jobs pay pretty well.
The mainstream automotive field is dying. Cars are throwaway appliances now, it's cheaper (in the immediate sense) to replace the car then repair it. Say you have a little appliance car, and it needs a $600-$1500 repair. With minimal credit, you can trade it in on another new one, and maybe see your payment bump up $50-$60 a month. If you've been paying on it and playing the whole credit game, you might even see the payment drop. To finance the repair, which in the long run would be the cheaper option, you're looking at two to three times the interest rate, a more stringent credit standard, and more hassle.
I am now specializing in diesel pickups, but due to my experience I do catch pretty much any European car that comes through as well, and anything technical and involved. I graduated from UTI in 99, I didn't learn anything more than I did in high school automotive class on the automotive side. I did learn some on the diesel side, but mostly because my school didn't touch diesel.
I have a co-worker who graduated in 2008, he is a great example of the low quality being turned out now.
I am also a formerly certified welder, but that market is very volatile. I go back and forth with whichever pays the best at the time and in the area.
Information on the net (of UTI) says entry level grads into the workforce make around $21,000.00-$28,000.00 dollars a year but, will have a $50,000.00 dollar student loan to repay when they get out.
--after graduation, factor in the cost a family if you get married, food, utilities, mortgage/rent, gas to get to work, house insurance, car insurance, health insurance, retirement, daily living expenses, unexpected expenses, student loans, etc. One may find themselves struggling to pay all of this in having too much month left at the end of the paycheck.
Information also suggests UTI is struggling to stay in business.
Thank y'all very much. Much of what y'all have said is almost verbatim what I have told him except from qman, however TIT DOES look like conello the Mexican boxer.
Jas88, TIT stands for Troll In Training...
HIO I told him the same about the welder gig, Ultra, your words are exactly what I told him.
Thank you for your input.
I'm actually trying to get him NOT to go into construction. Architects and Engineers have great ideas, but don't have real life experience of IF it will work.
I really half assedly tried not to let him get into mechanics. From a voice of experience, if you like it, don't do it for a living.
I like doing what I do in construction but the world is changing the subs are changing and the work ethics of today have all but gone away.
I have spoken to many in the blue collar fields, guys who own the business, and they say they cannot get any qualified techs (HVAC, welders, etc) that will show up for work regularly and on time. One guy summed it up this way, "Nobody wants to work anymore".
Become a certified welder... a skill that few are undertaking these days.
Down in Houston the oil & gas industry is starving for welders. They have set up a co-op program with the community colleges down there to offer 2-year training programs in welding and process tech and are paying high 5-figures to start. They even advertise it on TV they are so in need.
The son of my best friend in HS went into that program as a process tech and had a job waiting for him at the STNP in Bay City when he got out. He started at $80K/year.
So there are jobs if you are clean-cut, can speak English, and are reliable, that do not require you to go to a 4-year college.
I was in the automotive field for many years. I would never recommend being an independent general mechanic unless you just do under car stuff like brakes, struts ect. That's the gravy money on a car. Only the dealerships have the latest privy info on troubleshooting, a constant frustration for an independent.
One of my best friends is a Dodge tech at a Dodge/Ford store. They just built a new shop with about 20 bays and it's almost always full of diesel pickups. This is small town western SD and the better techs knock down well over 100 grand a year. Many of their progressing techs started out changing oil or detailing.