First oil change
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Although I realise this thread is about... "First Oil Change" and I did mine yesterday at the dealer.... Here is a side note to ponder. I asked for the Fuel Filters to be changed also. When I got home and reviewed my Dealer supplied work sheet, it only referenced one Fuel Filter. They only changed the one down by the Fuel Tank. I did some online research and that is the only filter I could find. Today I will work my wary through the owners manual to see if there is a second one or not? Maybe someone with more experience in this area can explain. I was expecting there to be Two Fuel Filters. One on the Fuel Tank and One in the Engine Bay. Oh, the Fuel Filter cost about $107 and the labor charge to change it was about $45.
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I've always done my first oil change early but in reality, I think the first change is no more or less important than any other.
I did my first ecoboost change at 2500 miles and the service adviser laughed at me, literally. He asked why I wanted to change so soon and that the engine is already broke in and the oil that's in there is the same that will go back in.
To which I relied, Ford says to follow the OLM which states that I can go up to 10K miles between changes but you, the dealer is recommending a 5K dump cycle. He shut his mouth and changed the oil. Since then I've settled into a 5K-6K dump cycle.
If my engine held 8-10 quarts of oil and had better filtration then I'd go the full 10K miles.
I did my first ecoboost change at 2500 miles and the service adviser laughed at me, literally. He asked why I wanted to change so soon and that the engine is already broke in and the oil that's in there is the same that will go back in.
To which I relied, Ford says to follow the OLM which states that I can go up to 10K miles between changes but you, the dealer is recommending a 5K dump cycle. He shut his mouth and changed the oil. Since then I've settled into a 5K-6K dump cycle.
If my engine held 8-10 quarts of oil and had better filtration then I'd go the full 10K miles.
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Although I realise this thread is about... "First Oil Change" and I did mine yesterday at the dealer.... Here is a side note to ponder. I asked for the Fuel Filters to be changed also. When I got home and reviewed my Dealer supplied work sheet, it only referenced one Fuel Filter. They only changed the one down by the Fuel Tank. I did some online research and that is the only filter I could find. Today I will work my wary through the owners manual to see if there is a second one or not? Maybe someone with more experience in this area can explain. I was expecting there to be Two Fuel Filters. One on the Fuel Tank and One in the Engine Bay. Oh, the Fuel Filter cost about $107 and the labor charge to change it was about $45.
The second filter is under the hood. It now has 3 ports as opposed to the previous gen's 2.
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Yes, I suspect that is a filter.... I can't find any schematic that has it listed or any part# for it.
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Oh, it's the second filter alright.... Lots of the websites likely haven't caught up yet. Have you asked the dealer parts counter to look it up? I'm sure it's in their system. Perhaps it's backordered which is why they only did the lower. They should have explained that to you though if that's the case.
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Oh, it's the second filter alright.... Lots of the websites likely haven't caught up yet. Have you asked the dealer parts counter to look it up? I'm sure it's in their system. Perhaps it's backordered which is why they only did the lower. They should have explained that to you though if that's the case.
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Although I realise this thread is about... "First Oil Change" and I did mine yesterday at the dealer.... Here is a side note to ponder. I asked for the Fuel Filters to be changed also. When I got home and reviewed my Dealer supplied work sheet, it only referenced one Fuel Filter. They only changed the one down by the Fuel Tank. I did some online research and that is the only filter I could find. Today I will work my wary through the owners manual to see if there is a second one or not? Maybe someone with more experience in this area can explain. I was expecting there to be Two Fuel Filters. One on the Fuel Tank and One in the Engine Bay. Oh, the Fuel Filter cost about $107 and the labor charge to change it was about $45.
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I nearly choked at the $45 charge too. Just wanted the Dealer to be the first to do the service for them to spot check how it's going so far. "Soon" as I get the part#'s for all the filters, I will be doing all my own servicing.
Oh, and, Yes, John Deere parts are quite expensive. I agree!!!
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The dealer likely won't provide 5w40 as a free first change. Do it yourself. It's not worth the trip to the dealer to get 10W30 for free. T6 is $21 a gallon at Walmart. The Motorcraft filter is $15 on Amazon. The oil change itself is one of the easiest you can do. What makes the second change even easier is to change out your drain plug for an EZDrain valve. Makes changing a no mess deal. Use a piece of tubing to drain the oil right into empty oil jugs and you won't even need an drain pan. For the filter, take a large screwdriver or hole punch and punch the filter before threading it off and it will drain right into a pan. Otherwise, the oil will run down the sides and make a mess. Here's a link to the EZ drain valve and the tube extension.
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I just ordered 6 of these for all my trucks. This looks like an awesome idea.
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Yes, they lock closed with the lever being spring loaded and forced into a detent location when closed. The difference between the EZValve and the Fumoto is the EZ valve has a nice Viton rubber permanent seal as opposed to the Fumoto separate gasket that fails over time or if and when you have to remove it. It also has a thick robber coating on the open close lever.
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EZ Oil Drain Valve - Home
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Yes, they lock closed with the lever being spring loaded and forced into a detent location when closed. The difference between the EZValve and the Fumoto is the EZ valve has a nice Viton rubber permanent seal as opposed to the Fumoto separate gasket that fails over time or if you have to remove it. It also has a thick robber coating on the open close lever. In other words, it's the same only better...
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I do not go off road much but enough to realize these valves are a target for that errant rock wanting to cause destruction. I bought one a few years ago but after second though gave it away to someone who never gets past the shoulder of the road. I would love to have confidence in it but having confidence in maintaining a full supply of oil is primary.
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Rob, the valve is tougher than the oil pan it's screwed into. It's far more likely you put a rock through your oil pan than to knock off a horizontally mounted valve that's above the very bottom of the pan. In other words, if something is going to get you, this ain't it...