Should I Fummins?
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Should I Fummins?
Hey guys,
It's been a while since I have been here. First of all, sorry to all of you that requested OBS parts that I didn't get to. Through a house remodel, a blown motor in my crew cab, and a trans rebuild in my 93 4x4, among other things, I haven't had time to breathe. Sometimes life gets in the way. An interesting development has come around. I met a guy with a complete, running 95 F250, with a first gen Cummins swap in it, which is a little *******ized, but runs and drives. He is a young kid, and doesn't have the experience or means to correct the problems with it, and is willing to trade me straight across for my 94 supercab IDIT 4x4. I was going to drop a couple grand into an IDI motor for my crew, to try to get to 300hp. I can't think of a good reason not to take his Cummins and drop it in there, and with some tinkering and a little fab, I can get to 300 hp easily and have the capacity to go higher for less coin. It is a first gen 5.9 out of a 93 Dodge with an auto trans and transfer case out of a 92 Dodge. It is all mechanical, with a manual overdrive trans. (switch on the dash he says?) Don't worry, I am not abandoning the IDI, I currently have eight trucks in my yard!
Thoughts?...GO!
Thanks,
Mac.
It's been a while since I have been here. First of all, sorry to all of you that requested OBS parts that I didn't get to. Through a house remodel, a blown motor in my crew cab, and a trans rebuild in my 93 4x4, among other things, I haven't had time to breathe. Sometimes life gets in the way. An interesting development has come around. I met a guy with a complete, running 95 F250, with a first gen Cummins swap in it, which is a little *******ized, but runs and drives. He is a young kid, and doesn't have the experience or means to correct the problems with it, and is willing to trade me straight across for my 94 supercab IDIT 4x4. I was going to drop a couple grand into an IDI motor for my crew, to try to get to 300hp. I can't think of a good reason not to take his Cummins and drop it in there, and with some tinkering and a little fab, I can get to 300 hp easily and have the capacity to go higher for less coin. It is a first gen 5.9 out of a 93 Dodge with an auto trans and transfer case out of a 92 Dodge. It is all mechanical, with a manual overdrive trans. (switch on the dash he says?) Don't worry, I am not abandoning the IDI, I currently have eight trucks in my yard!
Thoughts?...GO!
Thanks,
Mac.
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Hey guys,
It's been a while since I have been here. First of all, sorry to all of you that requested OBS parts that I didn't get to. Through a house remodel, a blown motor in my crew cab, and a trans rebuild in my 93 4x4, among other things, I haven't had time to breathe. Sometimes life gets in the way. An interesting development has come around. I met a guy with a complete, running 95 F250, with a first gen Cummins swap in it, which is a little *******ized, but runs and drives. He is a young kid, and doesn't have the experience or means to correct the problems with it, and is willing to trade me straight across for my 94 supercab IDIT 4x4. I was going to drop a couple grand into an IDI motor for my crew, to try to get to 300hp. I can't think of a good reason not to take his Cummins and drop it in there, and with some tinkering and a little fab, I can get to 300 hp easily and have the capacity to go higher for less coin. It is a first gen 5.9 out of a 93 Dodge with an auto trans and transfer case out of a 92 Dodge. It is all mechanical, with a manual overdrive trans. (switch on the dash he says?) Don't worry, I am not abandoning the IDI, I currently have eight trucks in my yard!
Thoughts?...GO!
Thanks,
Mac.
It's been a while since I have been here. First of all, sorry to all of you that requested OBS parts that I didn't get to. Through a house remodel, a blown motor in my crew cab, and a trans rebuild in my 93 4x4, among other things, I haven't had time to breathe. Sometimes life gets in the way. An interesting development has come around. I met a guy with a complete, running 95 F250, with a first gen Cummins swap in it, which is a little *******ized, but runs and drives. He is a young kid, and doesn't have the experience or means to correct the problems with it, and is willing to trade me straight across for my 94 supercab IDIT 4x4. I was going to drop a couple grand into an IDI motor for my crew, to try to get to 300hp. I can't think of a good reason not to take his Cummins and drop it in there, and with some tinkering and a little fab, I can get to 300 hp easily and have the capacity to go higher for less coin. It is a first gen 5.9 out of a 93 Dodge with an auto trans and transfer case out of a 92 Dodge. It is all mechanical, with a manual overdrive trans. (switch on the dash he says?) Don't worry, I am not abandoning the IDI, I currently have eight trucks in my yard!
Thoughts?...GO!
Thanks,
Mac.
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That's what I'm saying, I looked into doing it myself. Not worth it to me, I built my IDI. Everyone thinks the Cummins is like gold. Good engines, not a cost effective swap.
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I'd go w/ the cummins. IMHO Cummins makes the best engines on the road. I like my 6.9, but the cummins is a more modern engine, easier to get power out of and should get better milage. If I were in your place, I couldn't get the title signed over quick enough.
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This may be of interest;
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Even international/navistar knows they can't build an engine to save their life!
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i ain't rite
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i still would not do it. my stock 7.3 other than added turbo with just about 500k miles on it will walk away from just about every gold plated cumming it meets on the road, even the ones that are making 5000 hp and getting 200 mpg.
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Omg, LOL! This guy! If it wasn't so stinkin expensive, I'd slam a 3116 Cat in my truck with either a small Allison or an Eaton FSO8406A manual; **** everyone off!
i ain't rite
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From: Marlboro Mental Hospital.
3116 is ok, the 3216 is a much better engine. or the C-7 acert if you want electronics.
but the ultimate small inline six is the DT-360 international.
the DT360 can be bought usually for around $500 running, and after you pull it out of the bus you can recoup half the purchase price scrapping the bus. some even come with allison autos.
but the ultimate small inline six is the DT-360 international.
the DT360 can be bought usually for around $500 running, and after you pull it out of the bus you can recoup half the purchase price scrapping the bus. some even come with allison autos.
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From: Ford, WA
truck sat for almost 6 months, got in and turned the key, and it fired up as soon as I turned it to start. love that 3116..
I have no experience with the 5.9/6.7 cummins engines..they seem to take a beating in Yard goats shuttling 48', and 53' fully loaded trailers around 24 hours a day....
I say do the swap..
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Sounds like you already answered your own question. All the hard work is done.