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Old Oct 2, 2016 | 10:40 PM
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Hi there I own a 85 f250 4X4 460 non catalyst 4 speed. It has been less than a year since I bought it. Gotta say the truck pulls hard it has lots of power, very impressive. But from my understanding 80s engines are chocked up with emissions. Looks like 460 specs are 245 HP 385 lb ft. So my question is the 460 really chocked up? I was surprised. How much power could I gain with an intake & headers. I could only imagine
 
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Originally Posted by 1972fordhighboy2
Hi there I own a 85 f250 4X4 460 non catalyst 4 speed. It has been less than a year since I bought it. Gotta say the truck pulls hard it has lots of power, very impressive. But from my understanding 80s engines are chocked up with emissions. Looks like 460 specs are 245 HP 385 lb ft. So my question is the 460 really chocked up? I was surprised. How much power could I gain with an intake & headers. I could only imagine
Being from So.Cal. , You should be well aware of emission restraints. Keep in mind, what you dump into the top end...the bottom end needs to be capable of processing it. "You can eat what You want....but...can You digest it?
 
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Old Oct 3, 2016 | 05:56 AM
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The bottom end on a BB Ford is very stout. The crank can handle up to 1000 HP stock. The weak link is the rod bolts. So if you were doing a mild rebuild, putting in a set of quality ARP rod bolts is a must. It's cheap insurance.


The heads have a very poor flowing exhaust port. Intake is not too bad. Some grinding work on the exhaust port is necessary to improve flow. Better yet, put on some aluminum heads (then you can bump up compression by just using a head with smaller combustion chambers).


Camshaft is not suited for any performance. You want a cam with a duration around 210 to 220 degrees (at .050" tappet lift) and a valve lift around .500".


Lastly, add a nice dual-plane low-rise manifold and 4bbl carb, and you have a nice running truck.


With just intake and headers (and a decent carb) you might see up to 10 HP increase.
 
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Originally Posted by 1972fordhighboy2
Hi there I own a 85 f250 4X4 460 non catalyst 4 speed. It has been less than a year since I bought it. Gotta say the truck pulls hard it has lots of power, very impressive. But from my understanding 80s engines are chocked up with emissions. Looks like 460 specs are 245 HP 385 lb ft. So my question is the 460 really chocked up? I was surprised. How much power could I gain with an intake & headers. I could only imagine
Like was mentioned, you location stops you from doing very much. You have to take it in and they go over it for emissions correct? I am surprised they even let you keep it and drive it. I expect them to start paying you not to drive it. Remember "cash for clunkers"?
 
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Like was mentioned, you location stops you from doing very much. You have to take it in and they go over it for emissions correct? I am surprised they even let you keep it and drive it. I expect them to start paying you not to drive it. Remember "cash for clunkers"?
Yes the government will pay you to junk your car IF the vehicle doesn't pass smog.But there are ways to go around this if the vehicle doesn't pass.
 
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Old Oct 3, 2016 | 06:37 PM
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The bottom end on a BB Ford is very stout. The crank can handle up to 1000 HP stock. The weak link is the rod bolts. So if you were doing a mild rebuild, putting in a set of quality ARP rod bolts is a must. It's cheap insurance.


The heads have a very poor flowing exhaust port. Intake is not too bad. Some grinding work on the exhaust port is necessary to improve flow. Better yet, put on some aluminum heads (then you can bump up compression by just using a head with smaller combustion chambers).


Camshaft is not suited for any performance. You want a cam with a duration around 210 to 220 degrees (at .050" tappet lift) and a valve lift around .500".


Lastly, add a nice dual-plane low-rise manifold and 4bbl carb, and you have a nice running truck.


With just intake and headers (and a decent carb) you might see up to 10 HP increase.
. I am considering buying an intake, headers, and aluminum heads for now. I looked at summit & trick flow has heads but not sure which one , so many options. Will I need to put stronger rod bolts ?
 
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You only need to beef up the bottom end if you are going to rev it high in the upper rpms. If you are going to drive it normally, not over 5000 rpm, the bottom end should be strong enough.

Aluminum heads are going to wake that engine up.
 
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Old Oct 3, 2016 | 06:48 PM
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You only need to beef up the bottom end if you are going to rev it high in the upper rpms. If you are going to drive it normally, not over 5000 rpm, the bottom end should be strong enough.

Aluminum heads are going to wake that engine up.
will I be able to use the stock camshaft. And then upgrade later on ?
 
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Originally Posted by 1972fordhighboy2
will I be able to use the stock camshaft. And then upgrade later on ?
Yes. The new heads should make your valve train adjustable (from the factory it is not) so you can run any camshaft you choose, just redo the valve lash after installation.
 
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if you put in a straight up timing chain and gears with the intake and headers I believe you would be surprised how much better it pulls. If you know anything about porting just knock the smog bump off the exhaust side and you will be golden, but yes a better cam with all this will make it even more golden. She will definitely walk the dog.
 
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