Notices

Cab barrel connection wiring and under hood connections

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Sep 25, 2016 | 03:29 PM
  #1  
Cruiseomatic's Avatar
Cruiseomatic
Thread Starter
|
Posting Guru
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 1,858
Likes: 1
From: Dark side of the sun.
Cab barrel connection wiring and under hood connections

I know what this looks like. When I started the work, I found that mickey and Minne mouse had dinner on one and ate through it. Couple others just got the insulation. The one they ate through I cut, stripped, soldered, and sealed up. Since the others were not ate into just some insulation and a tiniest bit of copper showing but barely any, I cleaned up the area and drowned them in liquid tape and ran a zip tie around to hold for the time being until I could do more with it. That was a year ago. From the conduit bottom right coming in, I want to water proof or weather proof, which ever is better all the way up to and a little over the plastic barrel connection to protect the area and keep it worry free permanently. I also want to keep those wires tightly together so they can't chafe or rub the tape off. I do plan on cutting the ziptie off. It was a temp hold. I have a couple ideas how but unsure. I just don't want to be fording high water or something and water or something conductive get in there and cause problems.


This is a factory job. Under deteriorating cloth electrical tape from ford was this. And actually, It was under that gloss plastic tape that just breaks off then cloth. Either way, There is no solder or any kind of mechanical or true electrical connection. It is literally 7 wires compressed to each other into a neat square. One of them is a ground for the chassis harness. I'm afraid to pull the apart to solder it and put heatskrink over it for fear I can't get it to go back or stay. Could be part of my gauge problem. It is pretty nasty. Most of these wires are. Even inside the barrel is bad.


Lastly, Almost all of the connections under the hood are not weather proof. 30 years has taken its toll. How do I clean the round pins and blades? After I magically some how get them clean, How can I weather proof them aswell? I know, Lots of questions but this is going to be done to last a lifetime. I don't want to be one of these guys who are always having electrical issues or bad grounds they can never track down.
 
Reply
Old Sep 25, 2016 | 04:57 PM
  #2  
Franklin2's Avatar
Franklin2
Moderator
25 Year Member
Photogenic
Community Builder
Community Influencer
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 56,946
Likes: 2,717
From: Virginia
Club FTE Gold Member
There is no good answer. Wiring harness for the 80-up trucks are not available yet that I know of. You are correct, the wiring on these trucks is old enough now to cause many problems. Especially 86-up when fuel injected started, and even more wires were added.

Some of those connectors may be available, look at the sticky at the top of the forum. But it's not easy dealing with all the different connectors and wiring them up. And you will end up with what the factory had in the first place. If you can find a generic type weather proof plug, I would use that.
 
Reply
Old Sep 25, 2016 | 05:22 PM
  #3  
Cruiseomatic's Avatar
Cruiseomatic
Thread Starter
|
Posting Guru
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 1,858
Likes: 1
From: Dark side of the sun.
Luckily, my 87 is mechanically injected diesel. So all it has is basic functions for wiring. But if only the rat(s) didn't get that spot my harness would but fine for the most part. Just old adhesive coming apart. But after 30 years, I'm not surprised. And other than that spot on the barrel, It just needs cleaned and freshened up and since parts that I need are kinda in a dry supply Figured I might as well focus on getting all the electrical done. Boneyards aren't much help when only 1 in my local area has my year truck and they're not pleasant to deal with.
I have a listing on both FTE and OB classifieds for both ford parts I want to buy and Chevy Malibu parts I'm trying to sell for money to buy parts.
Same list on both sites and I am barely getting any bites...Craigslist is either full running driving trucks at full price or dead gassers. Ebay has everything I really don't need. If you know anyone who is letting parts go, Let me know.
 
Reply
Old Sep 25, 2016 | 08:45 PM
  #4  
Franklin2's Avatar
Franklin2
Moderator
25 Year Member
Photogenic
Community Builder
Community Influencer
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 56,946
Likes: 2,717
From: Virginia
Club FTE Gold Member
Originally Posted by Cruiseomatic
Luckily, my 87 is mechanically injected diesel. So all it has is basic functions for wiring. But if only the rat(s) didn't get that spot my harness would but fine for the most part. Just old adhesive coming apart. But after 30 years, I'm not surprised. And other than that spot on the barrel, It just needs cleaned and freshened up and since parts that I need are kinda in a dry supply Figured I might as well focus on getting all the electrical done. Boneyards aren't much help when only 1 in my local area has my year truck and they're not pleasant to deal with.
I have a listing on both FTE and OB classifieds for both ford parts I want to buy and Chevy Malibu parts I'm trying to sell for money to buy parts.
Same list on both sites and I am barely getting any bites...Craigslist is either full running driving trucks at full price or dead gassers. Ebay has everything I really don't need. If you know anyone who is letting parts go, Let me know.
Since you have that truck(I have a 89 diesel) look at the wiring going to the engine. There is a harness that goes from the pass side inner fender across in front of the A/C box, and then to the engine. There should be a plug in front of the A/C box. Check it, the two large yellow wires that feed the glowplug circuit like to melt the plug. On mine it was melted, but the smaller wires were ok. So I just took the large yellow wires out and bolted them together, and left the original plug for the smaller wires.
 
Reply
Old Sep 27, 2016 | 09:23 PM
  #5  
Travis S's Avatar
Travis S
More Turbo
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 642
Likes: 12
Snap some pictures of the connectors in question and chances are I can identify who manufactured them for Ford.
 
Reply
Old Sep 27, 2016 | 09:24 PM
  #6  
Cruiseomatic's Avatar
Cruiseomatic
Thread Starter
|
Posting Guru
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 1,858
Likes: 1
From: Dark side of the sun.
Every connection under the hood of an '87 diesel.
 
Reply
Old Sep 28, 2016 | 03:19 PM
  #7  
Travis S's Avatar
Travis S
More Turbo
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 642
Likes: 12
Originally Posted by Cruiseomatic
Every connection under the hood of an '87 diesel.
Dude, pictures local. I may be good, but I don't have your truck in front of me...lol
 
Reply
Old Sep 28, 2016 | 04:49 PM
  #8  
Cruiseomatic's Avatar
Cruiseomatic
Thread Starter
|
Posting Guru
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 1,858
Likes: 1
From: Dark side of the sun.






 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

 Brett Foote
story-3

2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-4

10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

 Brett Foote
story-6

5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

 Joe Kucinski
story-7

Ford Super Duty: 5 Things Owners LOVE, 5 Things They LOATHE!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

Every 2026 Ford Truck Engine RANKED from WORST to FIRST!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-9

The Best F-150 Deal of Every Trim Level (XL through Raptor)

 Joe Kucinski
Old Sep 28, 2016 | 04:50 PM
  #9  
Cruiseomatic's Avatar
Cruiseomatic
Thread Starter
|
Posting Guru
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 1,858
Likes: 1
From: Dark side of the sun.
Theres some of them I have a pic on here of.
 
Reply
Old Sep 28, 2016 | 06:26 PM
  #10  
Cruiseomatic's Avatar
Cruiseomatic
Thread Starter
|
Posting Guru
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 1,858
Likes: 1
From: Dark side of the sun.
Those are the ones that are going to give me the most problems. If you can ID who made this junk, Can you suggest a better replacement? I got a boneyard replacement but....Still no faith.
 
Reply
Old Sep 29, 2016 | 12:47 AM
  #11  
Cruiseomatic's Avatar
Cruiseomatic
Thread Starter
|
Posting Guru
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 1,858
Likes: 1
From: Dark side of the sun.
Found more of those "weld joints" in the harness....If I could just clean and seal them I'd feel better. What are they even called?
 
Reply
Old Sep 29, 2016 | 07:15 AM
  #12  
Franklin2's Avatar
Franklin2
Moderator
25 Year Member
Photogenic
Community Builder
Community Influencer
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 56,946
Likes: 2,717
From: Virginia
Club FTE Gold Member
Originally Posted by Cruiseomatic
Found more of those "weld joints" in the harness....If I could just clean and seal them I'd feel better. What are they even called?
They are called splices. In the Ford diagrams they are numbered starting with a "S". Connectors are numbered and start with a "C". Grounds are numbered and start with a "G".
 
Reply
Old Sep 29, 2016 | 09:24 AM
  #13  
Travis S's Avatar
Travis S
More Turbo
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 642
Likes: 12
Originally Posted by Franklin2
They are called splices. In the Ford diagrams they are numbered starting with a "S". Connectors are numbered and start with a "C". Grounds are numbered and start with a "G".
These splices were are basically crimped in a square die with a TON of force so the strands pressure-weld together for a reliable connection. It's how most battery cables at any parts store are made too. As it's kind of a PITA to crimp battery lugs, I solder all of mine, but crimp anything 10awg or smaller as I'm not exactly stellar with a soldering iron yet.

Before this gets into a debate, I'll simply say this:
A properly done solder connection is fine.
A properly done crimp connection is fine.

Either works well, just remember the double wall adhesive lined heat shrink to seal out moisture. An added benefit is strain relief

As for the connectors in question, are there any markings on them? Generally speaking, most manufacturers put a part number and/or their logo on their products. From a quick glance and the retainer spines on the first one, they look like AEES/EPC. A straight shot of the terminals might help too as I'll be able to instruct you on de-pinning them correctly for transplant into a new housing.
 
Reply
Old Sep 29, 2016 | 11:27 AM
  #14  
Franklin2's Avatar
Franklin2
Moderator
25 Year Member
Photogenic
Community Builder
Community Influencer
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 56,946
Likes: 2,717
From: Virginia
Club FTE Gold Member
No debate here.
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Cruiseomatic
Electrical Systems/Wiring
4
Dec 8, 2016 08:32 PM
Eaglekiller
1967 - 1972 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
2
Aug 6, 2013 06:40 PM
johnhammond
1973 - 1979 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
3
Apr 20, 2012 07:35 PM
lhud
1999 - 2003 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel
3
Apr 18, 2011 08:13 PM
HAARubicon
1980 - 1986 Bullnose F100, F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks
3
Aug 7, 2009 10:55 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:07 PM.

story-0
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-1
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-2
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE
story-3
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

Slideshow: Everything You Need to Know about the 2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-07 17:51:06


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

Slideshow: 10 most surprising Ford truck options/features in 2026.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:17:22


VIEW MORE
story-5
Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

Slideshow: Here are the top 10 Fords coming to Mecum Indy 2026.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:49:49


VIEW MORE
story-6
5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

Slideshow: The 5 best and 5 worst Ford truck wheels of all time

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 16:49:01


VIEW MORE
story-7
Ford Super Duty: 5 Things Owners LOVE, 5 Things They LOATHE!

Slideshow: Ranking the 5 things owners love about their Super Duty and 5 things they don't

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 16:36:49


VIEW MORE
story-8
Every 2026 Ford Truck Engine RANKED from WORST to FIRST!

Slideshow: Ranking all 12 Ford truck engines available in 2026.

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-22 13:32:20


VIEW MORE
story-9
The Best F-150 Deal of Every Trim Level (XL through Raptor)

Slideshow: The best Ford F-150 deal for every trim level (XL through Raptor)

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-21 15:59:01


VIEW MORE