Those still don't make sense. F450 rated lower than F350 DRW? Different ratings for 4x2 and 4x4 on SRW F350 only? What the heck?

EDIT: Fixed my typos. I'm as bad as Ford!

 

The f450 pickup has had less payload than the f350 drw for a long time. It weighs 500# more and has the same gvwr.

 

Looks like the Ford.com site is now updated as well. So much for the single rear wheel F450!

 

That will disappoint a few. I remember blowing a tire on my 18 wheeler and not having enough money to buy another tire on the road so I would dismount the remains of the tire and put the rim back on without a tire. It looked really stupid. I for one would never even consider owning a single rear wheel F450. It would even loose payload to haul around the weight of the big fat hips. Maybe Ford does not want that look out there.


I am still hoping someone in the know will jump in and explain the process by which "Maximum" is obtained. It is reminiscent of the 2 leaf or 3 leaf springs which had no correlation to the options on the truck and went unexplained as the thread passed away. The dealers, in fact, had no idea there even were the different configurations.

 

Not payload, but RAWR. Shouldn't that big azz, more robust axle give you a higher RAWR?

 

Well I am happy with the new payload chart. The F350 SRW SC 4wd jumped from 3900 pounds to 4710 pound payload. WHOOOOO PEE. We own payload. LOL
2017 Super Duty Truck | Payload Package Selector | Ford.com

 

I really hope these data entry people are not putting the build sheets for trucks on the line!

 

This is great news and finally in line with all the marketing hype. Wow, what a mess that was! Now to get news on how the stickers will be corrected...

 

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.....and sticker

 

You know, I'm reading the stickers differently for the first time. Each axle has its own rating but it's very specific to the tires installed and the pressure they're inflated to. The sticker says REAR GAWR = 6340 LBS WITH the 20 inch tires AT 65 PSI cold. It's a formula.

Sticker misprints aside, it stands to reason that a conversation with a state trooper could point out that if better tires are installed on the truck, its capability increases. If a person has the actual axle ratings documented in the glove box and could show that to said trooper, it would be a compelling argument at the side of the road. The sticker is printed to show maximum values when the OEM tires are installed. If the tires change, the overall GAWR changes proportionately.

 

I noticed earlier that the F250 tires were inflation rated at a lower TPI level. That should have to do with the decreased weight ratings and not requiring full inflation and hence give a smoother riding vehicle. I am not sure a discussion about changed tires or inflation would have much influence on the majority of enforcement officers.

 

So what we do know is this:


F250 with 20" has 6340 capacity and tires inflated to 65psi
F350 with 20" has 6340 capacity and tires inflated to 80psi
F350 axle we know has max capacity of 7230
Michelin LTX A/T2 in 275/65R20-E has a max load capacity of 3750 per tire @80psi meaning the tires are good for 7500lbs.


Water fountain at KTP sticker office is hooked to direct feed line from the Jim Beam plant in Clermont, KY.


Guess it's starting to make more sense now.

 

Sad but true. Officers aren't the most teachable type. But if I were to get into it with one, I would ask him if he checked my tire pressure before he determined my max GAWR. I have a friend who drives an F150 for the Utah Highway Patrol. His specialty is commercial truck code enforcement. Right or wrong, he will know how Utah enforces actual weights with door sticker values.

 

I am guessing a casualty of sticker gate. Truck was on ramp ready for shipment with ETA of 9/12 to 9/18. This morning updated to return to plant and ETA changed to TBD.