Specific towing capacities?
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The f350 srw platinum at the Denver show had a goose neck tow rating of 20,200#. I suspect the fifth wheel rating is 18k unless you buy your own hitch. Payload was 3103#, so that's probably your limit is you want to stay below the 11500# gvwr. Plenty of room in the 7230# rawr.
The long bed platinum was rated to tow 19000#
The long bed platinum was rated to tow 19000#
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Yes. It was a loaded platinum, which weighs 8397# with the tank full. 11,500-8397=3103.
If I end up with a SRW (very likely), I'll be ~500# over my GVWR towing, but well under my GCVWR, GAWR, and tire ratings. I figure the drive train, brakes and frame are the same as the 14,000# F350 dually, which seems OK to me.
See https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...rience-63.html for the truck I'm referring to. It was at Oswego, NY, not Denver - my bad.
If I end up with a SRW (very likely), I'll be ~500# over my GVWR towing, but well under my GCVWR, GAWR, and tire ratings. I figure the drive train, brakes and frame are the same as the 14,000# F350 dually, which seems OK to me.
See https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...rience-63.html for the truck I'm referring to. It was at Oswego, NY, not Denver - my bad.
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This would put a SRW long bed's payload around 2,900lbs! I can't believe Ford would significantly increase towing capacities while reducing hauling capacities by nearly 20%. Is anyone else having a hard time believing this?
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Somebody posted a chart here a couple of weeks ago that was dated April '16.
Maximum payload on a F350 CREW 4x4 short box= 3930 lbs. Loaded KR or Platinum might drop this 3-500 lbs
Max payload for a longbed F350 CREW 4x4 diesel was 3680 lbs
Maximum payload on a F350 CREW 4x4 short box= 3930 lbs. Loaded KR or Platinum might drop this 3-500 lbs
Max payload for a longbed F350 CREW 4x4 diesel was 3680 lbs
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I just looked at the link and the 3,103lbs is for a long bed (Platinum).
This seems to add up with the chart just referenced. If you subtract approximately 500lbs for a Platinum from the 3680lbs max. That's almost 1,000lbs lower than a loaded RAM or GM!
This seems to add up with the chart just referenced. If you subtract approximately 500lbs for a Platinum from the 3680lbs max. That's almost 1,000lbs lower than a loaded RAM or GM!
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Payload Document for F-250 - F-550
https://www.fleet.ford.com/truckbbas...017/specs.html
2017 F-Series Super Duty Supplemental Order Guide
has payloads by model, cab type, bed, bed-delete and cab and chassis across all F-Series including through the F-550 and it breaks the payload down by engine type as well as GVWR. Next? Maybe they'll do the same for Tow Ratings
https://www.fleet.ford.com/truckbbas...017/specs.html
2017 F-Series Super Duty Supplemental Order Guide
has payloads by model, cab type, bed, bed-delete and cab and chassis across all F-Series including through the F-550 and it breaks the payload down by engine type as well as GVWR. Next? Maybe they'll do the same for Tow Ratings
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Based on those numbers, the SRW Ford's won't be rated to tow a significant number of 5th wheels (toy haulers particularly) due to tongue weights. On the other hand, SRW RAM and GM trucks will be rated to tow them. Fascinating!
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Are you comparing Gas to Gas and Diesel to Diesel? Gas will have more payload in all the manufactures? Manufactures like to list the max towing with diesel specs and capacity by gas specs (lighter without diesel = more payload).
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The 6.7 drops the payload by 750#.
The srw new trucks are about 150 lbs lighter, carry 75# more fuel, and can have 75# more goodies - same payload as 2016, which is 700lbs less than the Ram. I received much flak when I pointed this out a couple of months ago.
For those of us with large 5th wheel campers and a family of 5, we will either get a dually, a Ram (ugh), or be a few hundred lbs over our gvwr. I still cannot believe that Ford consciously let the old Ram beat them by 800# on the gvwr. I keep hoping for a job #2 bump.
The srw new trucks are about 150 lbs lighter, carry 75# more fuel, and can have 75# more goodies - same payload as 2016, which is 700lbs less than the Ram. I received much flak when I pointed this out a couple of months ago.
For those of us with large 5th wheel campers and a family of 5, we will either get a dually, a Ram (ugh), or be a few hundred lbs over our gvwr. I still cannot believe that Ford consciously let the old Ram beat them by 800# on the gvwr. I keep hoping for a job #2 bump.
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Even the 2016 GMC Denali 3500HD (CC SRW SB) has a payload of 4080lbs, which is enough for most large 5th wheels. It will be interesting to see if GM payloads go up or down in 2017 with their new motor.
I suppose like others, I am concerned that towing over the weight rating would invalidate insurance coverage in an accident, and I don't want to drive a dually everyday. I hate to say it, but it seems a RAM or GM may be a better option. :/
I suppose like others, I am concerned that towing over the weight rating would invalidate insurance coverage in an accident, and I don't want to drive a dually everyday. I hate to say it, but it seems a RAM or GM may be a better option. :/
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Yes, a 2016 GMC Denali 3500HD Duramax (CC SRW SB 4x4) has a payload of 4,080, and a 2016 Ram Limited 3500 Cummins (CC SRW SB 4x4) has a payload of 4,140 (reduced to 4,000 with the Aisin transmission). Each is remarkably higher than the Ford.
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Is Ford going to issue a TSB to put a new tag on all of the early trucks? Think of the nightmare of every one having to go re- register their trucks because the GVWR changed.
