CALLING NUMBER DUMMY, HELP PLEASE
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CALLING NUMBER DUMMY, HELP PLEASE
Good morning ND. I was looking up torque specs and I came a cross a pretty big discrepancy regarding head bolt torques. One site: Torkspec gave 140 ft. lbs. while Boxwrench gave 90 ft. lbs.
This is for my 66' 428 Q.
What do you say?
What kind of sealer should I use for the bolts that enter the water jacket?
Thanks, Todd.
This is for my 66' 428 Q.
What do you say?
What kind of sealer should I use for the bolts that enter the water jacket?
Thanks, Todd.
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The book shows oiled threads 80-lbs.& dry 90-lbs Intake 32-35 ,Exh 12-lbs18-lbs
rockers 40-45lbs, Rods 40-45 for the car 428
The lower TQ numbers means oiled with the higher TQ numbers is dry threads.
Gees I think you should buy a manual to answer all your little question's that shows a lot of good info plus a better understanding with some pictures.
And if you make a mistake doing something you only have yourself to blame
Orich
rockers 40-45lbs, Rods 40-45 for the car 428
The lower TQ numbers means oiled with the higher TQ numbers is dry threads.
Gees I think you should buy a manual to answer all your little question's that shows a lot of good info plus a better understanding with some pictures.
And if you make a mistake doing something you only have yourself to blame
Orich
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Good morning ND. I was looking up torque specs and I came a cross a pretty big discrepancy regarding head bolt torques. One site: Torkspec gave 140 ft. lbs. while Boxwrench gave 90 ft. lbs.
This is for my 66' 428 Q.
What do you say?
What kind of sealer should I use for the bolts that enter the water jacket?
Thanks, Todd.
This is for my 66' 428 Q.
What do you say?
What kind of sealer should I use for the bolts that enter the water jacket?
Thanks, Todd.
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On various engines some of the water pump bolts go in to the water jacket. On these I use a little Black silicone gasket sealer. This will seal them now for you and the next guy who has to remove them will thank you for using the black stuff.
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If there is a concensus I roll with that.
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If you don't have a Ford Truck Shop Manual for your year model truck, you need one. It will give you all the torque specifications.
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i have been doing my Torquing in steps , haven't had any issue in since .
i start out say for heads 40lbs , 60lbs, 80lbs then what ever is left .
i do intakes , heads , everything this way .
i start out say for heads 40lbs , 60lbs, 80lbs then what ever is left .
i do intakes , heads , everything this way .
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You will find that not one printed books that covers these many years of trucks all have other information that one manual does not.
I have a few older Motors manual 50's,60's into mid 70's.& 80's & the 31st. of the Truck Manual.
Also Haynes, Chilton's manuals. Plus a few Holley carb books, A few Ford shop manuals coving the bumps the. An a Domestic Transmission manual.
I'm sure a good number of guys on here have as many if not more.
I've gotten many at the swap meets/flea markets and paid top dollar for from a printer. or book store.
So sometimes it's hard to believe many guys wing it like from the shade tree days of snapping head bolts and so on.
A guy who's wrenched a good number of yrs learns feel by using the correct wrenches when tightening nuts & bolts to get them very close to the correct torque rate.
This is why it's important to buy and use the correct tools having 3-4 sets of socket tools helps not to break bolts 3/16 to2" bolts
Orich
I have a few older Motors manual 50's,60's into mid 70's.& 80's & the 31st. of the Truck Manual.
Also Haynes, Chilton's manuals. Plus a few Holley carb books, A few Ford shop manuals coving the bumps the. An a Domestic Transmission manual.
I'm sure a good number of guys on here have as many if not more.
I've gotten many at the swap meets/flea markets and paid top dollar for from a printer. or book store.
So sometimes it's hard to believe many guys wing it like from the shade tree days of snapping head bolts and so on.
A guy who's wrenched a good number of yrs learns feel by using the correct wrenches when tightening nuts & bolts to get them very close to the correct torque rate.
This is why it's important to buy and use the correct tools having 3-4 sets of socket tools helps not to break bolts 3/16 to2" bolts
Orich
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You will find that not one printed books that covers these many years of trucks all have other information that one manual does not.
I have a few older Motors manual 50's,60's into mid 70's.& 80's & the 31st. of the Truck Manual.
Also Haynes, Chilton's manuals. Plus a few Holley carb books, A few Ford shop manuals coving the bumps the. An a Domestic Transmission manual.
I'm sure a good number of guys on here have as many if not more.
I've gotten many at the swap meets/flea markets and paid top dollar for from a printer. or book store.
So sometimes it's hard to believe many guys wing it like from the shade tree days of snapping head bolts and so on.
A guy who's wrenched a good number of yrs learns feel by using the correct wrenches when tightening nuts & bolts to get them very close to the correct torque rate.
This is why it's important to buy and use the correct tools having 3-4 sets of socket tools helps not to break bolts 3/16 to2" bolts
Orich
I have a few older Motors manual 50's,60's into mid 70's.& 80's & the 31st. of the Truck Manual.
Also Haynes, Chilton's manuals. Plus a few Holley carb books, A few Ford shop manuals coving the bumps the. An a Domestic Transmission manual.
I'm sure a good number of guys on here have as many if not more.
I've gotten many at the swap meets/flea markets and paid top dollar for from a printer. or book store.
So sometimes it's hard to believe many guys wing it like from the shade tree days of snapping head bolts and so on.
A guy who's wrenched a good number of yrs learns feel by using the correct wrenches when tightening nuts & bolts to get them very close to the correct torque rate.
This is why it's important to buy and use the correct tools having 3-4 sets of socket tools helps not to break bolts 3/16 to2" bolts
Orich
I figured I could find the information using this crazy thing in my lap.
Why would there be such a difference as what I found?
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May be a typo, even. That's why it's best to use a Ford Shop manual. Primary source documents. Less chance of that happening, though it has. It takes experience too, if you see a small bolt and the torque is 150 ft lbs listed instead of inch pounds, you can tell right away it will snap. I've also seen people use a torque wrench, who are not clear at all on the concept. It's sad. Those old Motors manuals are great for learning about the obsolete tech.
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Also worth mentioning is using any extensions changes the actual torque applied. I have little give away pocket size books from Fel-pro that have the formula. I can't rightly remember on the FE but most intakes don't have room to get on the center bolts with a torque wrench. I've been doing them for decades with a fairly long 9/16 wrench. An acquired feel for the right torque and resisting the urge to over-tighten is crucial.
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