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Old May 22, 2017 | 07:23 AM
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Blocking the oil feed to the rocker shaft is going to cause more problems you don't want

Do the lifters have the oil hole too?
 
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Old May 24, 2017 | 08:23 AM
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I don't think the lifters had a hole on top, it is one of those things where at the time it wasn't important, but I think I'd have noted it if it was there.

Fact is, with restrictors in place my heads are swimming in oil.
 
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Old May 24, 2017 | 08:41 AM
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Took the carb off and was surprised at how open the primaries were - turned out the choke adjustment screw was preventing the primaries from closing completely. Got that sorted and the carb back on and it fired and held idle around 750 rpm.

Primaries as it was on the engine - too much transfer slot showing.




Primaries after backing off the choke adjustment.






I also got my timing up to around 18 degrees, and with the PCV closed off, I'm seeing just below 10 inches of vacuum, and the dieseling is almost eliminated. I think I'll push initial timing to 20 and see what it does, then before I drive it I'll have to modify the old Autolite distributor to reduce total timing to around 32-33. As it is currently set up I'll wind up with total timing in the 39-41 range and burn a hole through a piston.

I'll play with the initial timing a little more and then work on the distributor to limit maximum advance.
 
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Old May 24, 2017 | 09:36 AM
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At 20, you'll have a hard time starting it when the engine is warmed up.
 
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Old May 24, 2017 | 10:13 AM
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The price of maximum vacuum may well be a new starter.
 
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Old May 24, 2017 | 05:29 PM
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Old May 24, 2017 | 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by yellow truck
The price of maximum vacuum may well be a new starter.
And a nice sharp PING when it does start
 
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Old May 25, 2017 | 04:47 AM
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And a nice sharp PING when it does start
This is one of the reasons real car builders avoid this place.
 
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Old May 25, 2017 | 09:51 AM
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Just spoke with T&D about oiling the rockers, and they strongly suggest either close off the oil passage under the rocker stand, or use solid pushrods. Either one will provide adequate oil and any combination of oil through the passage and oil through the pushrod will drown the head.

I'll be pulling the rocker assembly after I get the distributor where I want it.
 
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Old May 25, 2017 | 11:33 AM
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Something I'm not understanding, FE don't oil through the push rods and blocking the oil passage to the rockers will kill them..
 
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Old May 25, 2017 | 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by DeepRoots
This is one of the reasons real car builders avoid this place.
Ever try to start an engine with a high initial advance?

Originally Posted by hiball3985
Something I'm not understanding, FE don't oil through the push rods and blocking the oil passage to the rockers will kill them..
That's what I was going to say. If the lifters don't have oil holes, the pushrods won't get oil. If you block the oil feed under the rocker shaft stand, no oil will get to the valve train. The entire rocker shaft assembly was meant to be fed oil from the rocket stand feed, including the rocker arm tips. If you reverse that, I'm not sure that's the right way to go. And again, if the lifters don't have oil holes in them, you're screwed.
 
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Old May 25, 2017 | 12:32 PM
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What kind of lifters did you use again? I used the Morel link bar ones I got from Barry when I did mine. If I recall the number is 5325 or something like that. I remember talking about the same thing with Barry because I used hollow pushrods too. He said doubling up on the oil wasn't really going to hurt anything and I can't see that it has other than a little lower oil pressure at idle. Hot idle I have like 15lb but as soon as the rpms climb it jumps right to around 60.
I thought about doing what you're thinking but I think they'll stilll have the link bar noise. Other than that mine are quiet
 
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Old May 25, 2017 | 01:46 PM
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Old May 25, 2017 | 05:30 PM
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Every day sir.... every day. My Galaxie I've run 24 for awhile, currently settled at 22. My F100 runs 18, and most of the race cars I work on have the timing locked out, typically somewhere between 34-38.

Krewat, he is running T&D rockers that are designed to be oiled via the pushrod.
Jeez, I'm on a roll lately. Read my signature

When I turned the advance up on the 390 I built for my highboy, that thing struggled to start with a good starter, wiring and battery, and it would "ping" as it fired up. I had a 289 I built a while before that, did the same thing. Maybe the cam timing was to blame for that.

I missed the rocker thing, thanks.
 
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Old May 25, 2017 | 05:38 PM
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No worries sir.
I just don't want to confuse or mislead the original poster.
 
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