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Old Jun 21, 2016 | 08:13 AM
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The first relay is the glow plug relay and has no impact on cranking. The second picture shows the starter RELAY; the solenoid is on the starter. The relay has no negAtive terminal; it's grounded through its base mounting on the fender.

If by "touch" you mean you're connecting some sort of jumper conductor between a positive power source and the given terminal, then you've demonstrated that both the starter and the relay are good. Jumping a positive to the small terminal on the relay basically bypasses the ignition switch, neutral switch and associated wiring, but still uses the relay to energize the starter.

This indicates a problem "upstream" of the relay - ignition switch, neutral switch, associated wiring. That's where the wire on the small terminal comes from. That connection right at that terminal looks iffy at best; I'd put either a push-on terminal or a ring terminal with a nut on that wire, for starters (sorry, bad pun...). If no change, try starting in neutral. Also try moving the shifter from neutral toward Drive and toward Reverse while holding the key in the START position (slighty tricky two-hand operation). If you get it to start cranking with any of that, the NSS is the prime suspect; either out of adjustment or needs replacement.

When you turn the key from RUN to START, does the key movement feel "normal", like it's moving the full amount you expect it to?
 
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Old Jun 21, 2016 | 12:32 PM
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When you turn the key from RUN to START, does the key movement feel "normal", like it's moving the full amount you expect it to?[/QUOTE]


Yes it feels no different Than normal thank you for explaining all this stuff it's my first truck and I know more about it than anyone else in our school but I'm still pretty green
 
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Old Jun 21, 2016 | 03:14 PM
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Starts at relay



Goes threw the dash to here by the fuse box does this weird loop




Comes out of the hole by the fuse box




Goes into this harness by the firewall then I can't seem to find it .
So does anyone know where its final destination is?
 
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Old Jun 21, 2016 | 05:17 PM
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on the side of the trans behind the shifter arm should be the neutral safety switch. there will be 4 wires to it. two red/blue are for neutral safety switch, and the pink/white and black/red are for reverse lights.
with wheels chocked, have someone turn the key to start and check for power on the red/blue wires while in park. you should have power to both sides. if you only get power to one side, then the nss is the problem.
if no power to either wire, than the problem is farther up in the ignition system.
remove the lower dash panels, and loosen the steering column bolts on the dash. this will allow the column to drop an inch or so. look in along the top of the column and you will see the ignition switch down in the area of the brake pedal.
remove the two 7/16 head bolts, and lower the switch. using a screwdriver, try pushing the switch where the rod goes into and start. if it does not start, i would try replacing the switch. if it does start, than the problem is in the ignition actuator in the top of the column
 
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