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Old Jun 11, 2016 | 11:12 AM
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CPS advice sought please.

My truck is getting the CPS changed by my local Ford dealer here in the UK as a recall job, I dropped the truck off last night & first thing today they called me to say that the retaining bolt is seized, they didn't want to chance breaking it & leave me without the truck until I can leave it with them for a full day in case they have to drill out a broken bolt. So has anyone had this happen or is it an easy fix if it does shear? They said they will try some heat first & before anyone says otherwise, they are very good & it won't be some wet behind the ears kid let loose on the job.
I'm kinda glad it's happened there & not on the roadside.
 
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Old Jun 11, 2016 | 11:20 AM
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I wouldn't let them change it out. It is probably the highly coveted original black CPS sensor, the only one that works right. You might want to get that bolt out on your own terms though in the event the sensor goes at an inconvenient moment (like they do) and you can change it with no sweat.
 
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Old Jun 11, 2016 | 11:21 AM
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Why did they recall them anyway?
 
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Old Jun 11, 2016 | 11:35 AM
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I WOULD allow them to change it. They are responsible for whatever is necessary to meet the recall. Broken bolts, wires, etc. as well as a time period thereafter for quality.


What if you drive down the road today and it does fail? You'll be stick with a seized bolt to remove.


They were recalled for performance #07S57 in U.S. I can only assume the UK Followed
 
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Old Jun 11, 2016 | 12:09 PM
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There is only 1 bolt! To think it seized in the Aluminum front cover is scary. Have them do any work because you don't just drill the bolt out. If shavings got in that area, it "could" be catastrophic.

If nothing else you could ask to see or maybe even keep the old part, but have them do the work!
 
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Old Jun 11, 2016 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Walleye Hunter
I wouldn't let them change it out. It is probably the highly coveted original black CPS sensor, the only one that works right. You might want to get that bolt out on your own terms though in the event the sensor goes at an inconvenient moment (like they do) and you can change it with no sweat.
It is the original sensor, my truck is a 2000 with a late '99 build date. I didn't realise that there was a highly coveted sensor, but they have already agreed to let me keep it after they fit the new part. I would like to do the job myself but have neither the time or the inclination to be dealing with a broken bolt.
The recall is an old one that has only come about as I use my local Ford dealer for our annual inspection & when they entered my vin this & the Speed control switch recall showed as outstanding. I'm a bit puzzled if this is the good CPS, why were they recalled?
 
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Old Jun 11, 2016 | 01:01 PM
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Keep spraying it with PB blaster for a few days, especially when hot so it can get in the threads.
 
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Old Jun 11, 2016 | 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Walleye Hunter
Why did they recall them anyway?
Well, you kind of answered that with your previous post that I've quoted below. It's because...

Originally Posted by Walleye Hunter
...in the event the sensor goes at an inconvenient moment (like they do)
....leaving people stranded on the side of the road.

Stewart
 
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Old Jun 11, 2016 | 01:45 PM
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Well, you kind of answered that with your previous post that I've quoted below. It's because...



....leaving people stranded on the side of the road.

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So is there a preferred sensor? I've heard mention of different colours, which is best?
 
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It may sound too obvious, but parts only fail during use. Better to always change them out proactively on your own terms and with your own tools... when it's feasible to do so.
 
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So is there a preferred sensor? I've heard mention of different colours, which is best?
There has been much discussion on them here. All I can go by is what I read (hearsay) but I have heard say from some reliable sources that the subsequent versions of that CPS do not perform as well as that original. It hasn't left you on the side of the road yet so...They remove, you keep old part=good deal as stated, they are responsible to get it off. Steel bolts seize up in aluminum due to electrolysis. This is a case where some never seize or grease on the bolt would not hurt. I would like to hear how the replacement part differs in performance, if at all. Then you can do what you want with that old one. I'll take it if you don't want it.
 
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Old Jun 11, 2016 | 03:00 PM
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I've been doing a bit of searching & it seems that the original sensor doesn't always come out very easily, lots of stories about rounded bolt heads & broken sockets, but not any about broken bolts, then the original sensor doesn't pry out either, I'm going to speak with the service manager on Monday & find out what colour the new sensor is, then flip a coin to decide whether I let them change it or just take the new sensor & keep it & tools to change it with the truck.
 
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There was a somewhat impromptu study done by a few people on TDS, and the conclusion was that the NAPA/Echlin sensor performs closest to the original black OEM CMP sensor. I just installed one in a 1996 truck a few days ago. The one that came out was an original black sensor. I haven't had a chance to look at any of the running data yet, but the truck will be back this week for a couple other things.
 
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Old Jun 12, 2016 | 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Pikachu
There was a somewhat impromptu study done by a few people on TDS, and the conclusion was that the NAPA/Echlin sensor performs closest to the original black OEM CMP sensor. I just installed one in a 1996 truck a few days ago. The one that came out was an original black sensor. I haven't had a chance to look at any of the running data yet, but the truck will be back this week for a couple other things.
Do you have the part # for the NAPA CPS handy? Thanks.
 
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