93 Suddenly died, please help!
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4wd High
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93 Suddenly died, please help!
So this morning I started up my truck. Turned on just fine, no issues or funny sounds. I put it in 1st and moved about 10 feet when it just shut off. I turned the key and it cranked but didn't turn over. I hit the fuel tank switch and still wouldn't turn over. I had to push it back down the driveway when I notice a couple of small puddles of oil and a slick coming from where it died. I didn't have time to check it out since I had to get to work. I will check after I'm off of course but I wanted to check in here for any ideas what it could be or if anyone had similar issues?
I have the 4.9 (300) with 5 speed. It has over 325k miles on it.
Here is what I've done since I bought it in February
Clutch, clutch slave cylinder, spark plugs, oil pan gasket and filter, brake master cylinder and booster, brake pads, fuel pumps in both tanks (just last week), shocks, TPS, power steering hose, shocks, tires and on Friday a new battery.
It's been running great since I changed the fuel pumps. I've even taken it over the mountains to the beach 2 days in a row without issues. Any ideas is much appreciated!
I have the 4.9 (300) with 5 speed. It has over 325k miles on it.
Here is what I've done since I bought it in February
Clutch, clutch slave cylinder, spark plugs, oil pan gasket and filter, brake master cylinder and booster, brake pads, fuel pumps in both tanks (just last week), shocks, TPS, power steering hose, shocks, tires and on Friday a new battery.
It's been running great since I changed the fuel pumps. I've even taken it over the mountains to the beach 2 days in a row without issues. Any ideas is much appreciated!
More Turbo
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Sorry you're having issues. Never fun. Now you say it cranked but didn't turn over. Both of those things are the same thing. So the motor cranked but it didn't start? Let us know if it was oil or gas under your truck. Here's a link someone shared the other day here, and it is very helpful. Part 1 -How to Troubleshoot a No Start (Ford 4.9L, 5.0L, 5.8L).
Keep us updated.
Keep us updated.
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4wd High
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Sorry you're having issues. Never fun. Now you say it cranked but didn't turn over. Both of those things are the same thing. So the motor cranked but it didn't start? Let us know if it was oil or gas under your truck. Here's a link someone shared the other day here, and it is very helpful. Part 1 -How to Troubleshoot a No Start (Ford 4.9L, 5.0L, 5.8L).
Keep us updated.
Keep us updated.
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4wd High
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From: San Jose
Sorry you're having issues. Never fun. Now you say it cranked but didn't turn over. Both of those things are the same thing. So the motor cranked but it didn't start? Let us know if it was oil or gas under your truck. Here's a link someone shared the other day here, and it is very helpful. Part 1 -How to Troubleshoot a No Start (Ford 4.9L, 5.0L, 5.8L).
Keep us updated.
Keep us updated.
I open up the hood and right off the bat saw that the power steering cap had broken and popped off slightly. This was my leak, not oil as I originally thought.
I then went through the link Binkowski had provided. I kind of jumped around changing the ignition coil, the rotor, and eventually ended up finding the problem to be the ignition control module. I didn't mind spending the few extra bucks on the other parts since the looked original anyway.
My truck started up right away and I took it for a drive. Everything was going good until about the 7th time I tried to turn it on and it died again. Again the power steering cap was popped off, fluid everywhere, and won't start. OBD1 codes are 52, 25, 22, and 16.
It seems like I'll be needing a power steering pump? Any other thoughts?
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OK, so here is what I found and did.
I open up the hood and right off the bat saw that the power steering cap had broken and popped off slightly. This was my leak, not oil as I originally thought.
I then went through the link Binkowski had provided. I kind of jumped around changing the ignition coil, the rotor, and eventually ended up finding the problem to be the ignition control module. I didn't mind spending the few extra bucks on the other parts since the looked original anyway.
My truck started up right away and I took it for a drive. Everything was going good until about the 7th time I tried to turn it on and it died again. Again the power steering cap was popped off, fluid everywhere, and won't start. OBD1 codes are 52, 25, 22, and 16.
It seems like I'll be needing a power steering pump? Any other thoughts?
I open up the hood and right off the bat saw that the power steering cap had broken and popped off slightly. This was my leak, not oil as I originally thought.
I then went through the link Binkowski had provided. I kind of jumped around changing the ignition coil, the rotor, and eventually ended up finding the problem to be the ignition control module. I didn't mind spending the few extra bucks on the other parts since the looked original anyway.
My truck started up right away and I took it for a drive. Everything was going good until about the 7th time I tried to turn it on and it died again. Again the power steering cap was popped off, fluid everywhere, and won't start. OBD1 codes are 52, 25, 22, and 16.
It seems like I'll be needing a power steering pump? Any other thoughts?
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4wd High
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I haven't gone back under the hood to check it. I had to have it towed home and I lost daylight. The PS cap is new with both tabs on it. The old one had broke a tab. Yes, it's possible the PS fluid got into something. It's all over the place, especially on the ignition coil connectors.
I'll have to wait to get into it tomorrow after work.
I'll have to wait to get into it tomorrow after work.
Tuned
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I haven't gone back under the hood to check it. I had to have it towed home and I lost daylight. The PS cap is new with both tabs on it. The old one had broke a tab. Yes, it's possible the PS fluid got into something. It's all over the place, especially on the ignition coil connectors.
I'll have to wait to get into it tomorrow after work.
I'll have to wait to get into it tomorrow after work.
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4wd High
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As for the PS fluid shooting out, I cleaned and flushed the fluid but I will change the pump now, again for peace of mind, so it won't pop off the cap (hopefully).
My truck does have 325k+ miles on it, I figured the PO didn't do a good job maintaining it. I'd love to make it last another 325k so changing these parts won't hurt and hopefully fix my current issues.
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4wd High
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It was blue spark. I'll be installing the distributor and setting the timing today. I already replaced the PS pump. I'll keep you all posted.
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4wd High
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I finally got it running again! The distributor was the last piece of the puzzle. I've been running the truck for 2 1/2 days now with no issues. I'm getting better power already and I'm hoping better gas mileage.
Thanks everyone for all the help!
Recap: replaced the 3 capacitors in the PCM, ignition coil, distributor, cap and rotor, ICM, and PS pump.
Thanks everyone for all the help!
Recap: replaced the 3 capacitors in the PCM, ignition coil, distributor, cap and rotor, ICM, and PS pump.
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The PS pump was more than likely OK. It is normal for oil to come out of the PS pump if you turn the column wheel with the engine not running.
The ICM was also more than likely OK so keep the old one.
Your whole problem was the PIP sensor.
The ICM was also more than likely OK so keep the old one.
Your whole problem was the PIP sensor.
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I don't know what's up with Ford power steering pumps, but they must be the most bizarre pumps in the industry. Super loud when they age, and they blow the cap off when you turn the wheel with the engine off.
I know more than one person with a Ford that thought something went terribly wrong when they moved the vehicle around without starting it, then popped the hood.
I know more than one person with a Ford that thought something went terribly wrong when they moved the vehicle around without starting it, then popped the hood.
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