1968-Present E-Series Van/Cutaway/Chassis Econolines. E150, E250, E350, E450 and E550

Correct Spark Plug Torque And Gap? (1999 E-150 5.4 V8)

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #1  
Old 04-13-2016, 02:46 PM
dbbldz's Avatar
dbbldz
dbbldz is offline
Freshman User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 26
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Question Correct Spark Plug Torque And Gap? (1999 E-150 5.4 V8)

Anyone have experience with the plugs on these vans? I've heard the plugs can blow out if not torqued properly and the original factory torque specs are wrong because of blow out problems. Not sure if this affects all Ford 5.4s or my van specifically?

Additionally, there seems to be a debate about whether anti-seize should be used or they should be installed dry. Any thoughts?

Lastly, are Motorcraft spark plugs pre-gapped? Will be checking them anyway but was curious. Are the original spark plug gap recommendations the same or have they also changed?
 
  #2  
Old 04-14-2016, 07:34 AM
jimandnena's Avatar
jimandnena
jimandnena is offline
Elder User
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 906
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
This looks like the definitive answer on 5.4L plugs, dbbldz.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/7...5-4-plugs.html
HTH
 
  #3  
Old 04-14-2016, 10:50 AM
WorldCommander's Avatar
WorldCommander
WorldCommander is offline
Mountain Pass
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 183
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
There is info here on the 5.4 also:

Blownoutsparkplug.com Ford Spark Plug Thread Repair

Vastly different torque specs than the manual states. I have a V10 and used this service twice. Never any problem.

I didn't have a blown plug or repair. They changed plugs using the post '99 plug and their torque values.
 
  #4  
Old 04-14-2016, 10:55 AM
JWA's Avatar
JWA
JWA is offline
Fleet Owner
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Reynoldsburg, Ohio
Posts: 20,888
Received 1,394 Likes on 1,103 Posts
Jim's link is good as far as it goes however in the time since new procedures have been adapted by most of us who DIY plugs...........

-Nothing but the Motorcraft plugs sped'd for the specific year and engine. The plug gap is pre-set at the factory, nothing more than a quick check right before installation to assure its not changed for unknown reasons (shipping mishandling etc.)

-Anti-seize a definite must IMHO, nickel-based because it withstands higher operating temperatures (as compared to aluminum-based). Despite the spec'd plug's platinum thread plating this single step greatly reduces potential issues next plug change.

-ANY good quality brand/type of torque wrench is more than sufficient, the preferred range for maximum accuracy 5-75 is best. (Digital is okay but that's not necessary at all, the "click" type just as good.)

-Torque the plugs to about 22 ft/lbs, disregard the 7-14 values found in the service manuals no matter who has printed or authored them.

In the linked thread the remaining bits are fine---I'd agree with most of what's there, FWIW.


HTH
 
  #5  
Old 04-14-2016, 10:37 PM
dbbldz's Avatar
dbbldz
dbbldz is offline
Freshman User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 26
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by WorldCommander
There is info here on the 5.4 also:

Blownoutsparkplug.com Ford Spark Plug Thread Repair

Vastly different torque specs than the manual states. I have a V10 and used this service twice. Never any problem.

I didn't have a blown plug or repair. They changed plugs using the post '99 plug and their torque values.
Ok they're saying they have torqued plugs to 100 ft lbs? sounds like under torquing is more dangerous than over torquing when it comes to these plugs
 
  #6  
Old 04-14-2016, 10:44 PM
dbbldz's Avatar
dbbldz
dbbldz is offline
Freshman User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 26
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by JWA
Jim's link is good as far as it goes however in the time since new procedures have been adapted by most of us who DIY plugs...........

-Nothing but the Motorcraft plugs sped'd for the specific year and engine. The plug gap is pre-set at the factory, nothing more than a quick check right before installation to assure its not changed for unknown reasons (shipping mishandling etc.)

-Anti-seize a definite must IMHO, nickel-based because it withstands higher operating temperatures (as compared to aluminum-based). Despite the spec'd plug's platinum thread plating this single step greatly reduces potential issues next plug change.

-ANY good quality brand/type of torque wrench is more than sufficient, the preferred range for maximum accuracy 5-75 is best. (Digital is okay but that's not necessary at all, the "click" type just as good.)

-Torque the plugs to about 22 ft/lbs, disregard the 7-14 values found in the service manuals no matter who has printed or authored them.

In the linked thread the remaining bits are fine---I'd agree with most of what's there, FWIW.


HTH
Thanks! Yeah I went with Motorcraft since that seems to be the general recommendation. Had a heck of a time getting a bosch plug out of there from the previous owner... luckily didn't break... all the rest were Motorcraft and came right out. Maybe a coincidence?

Used a digital torque wrench and got em all somewhere between 25-28 ft/lbs

Ended up doing em dry after reading the that blownoutsparkplug.com faq and a few threads about the problem. with my luck my van will be Found On the Road Dead before I get to my next plug change
 
  #7  
Old 04-16-2016, 05:44 AM
JWA's Avatar
JWA
JWA is offline
Fleet Owner
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Reynoldsburg, Ohio
Posts: 20,888
Received 1,394 Likes on 1,103 Posts
Originally Posted by dbbldz
Ok they're saying they have torqued plugs to 100 ft lbs? sounds like under torquing is more dangerous than over torquing when it comes to these plugs
I've not read the BlownOutSparkPlug FAQ's in a long time but I found this thread here to be VERY interesting: https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...ead-heads.html Its just one of those things that probably like BOSP's FAQ tends to debunk a lot of myths.

As long as your plugs are in, didn't cross thread etc and its running fine now you're good to go. Do keep in mind its a good practice changing them at 50K miles, again a bit in disagreement with manuals saying they can go 100K.

Good work BTW, thanks for the follow up and contribution here!
 
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
FORDDIEHARD
1999 to 2016 Super Duty
21
01-15-2022 04:39 PM
Pastor Scott
1999 to 2016 Super Duty
19
12-21-2017 03:33 PM
xtal_01
Modular V10 (6.8l)
12
05-03-2016 01:58 PM
Gg6k
2007 - 2014 Expedition & Navigator
4
04-14-2016 08:57 PM
jjcaldwell
Modular V10 (6.8l)
15
10-14-2004 02:28 PM



Quick Reply: Correct Spark Plug Torque And Gap? (1999 E-150 5.4 V8)



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:23 AM.