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Are y'all worried about the aluminum body in the 2017? How's it working out for the F150's? I had a conversation not too long ago with someone that said they are having a hard time getting replacement metal for ones that are wrecked - is that true?
Ah, crap, do I need to start another thread? LOL!
If the sky falls the sheet metal will be the last of your worries.lol
Traded my 2013 F250 for a Dually F350 because the dealer pressure tested my radiator and caused a leak. So, if it were me, I would do it now. And truthfully, since the model is about to change, the deals are pretty enticing anyway. I am in the same payment as my 2013 F250, added the extended warranty for that same payment, and came home with a check for $3k. Why would I not upgrade at those terms?
Traded my 2013 F250 for a Dually F350 because the dealer pressure tested my radiator and caused a leak. So, if it were me, I would do it now. And truthfully, since the model is about to change, the deals are pretty enticing anyway. I am in the same payment as my 2013 F250, added the extended warranty for that same payment, and came home with a check for $3k. Why would I not upgrade at those terms?
Good luck either way.
Meanwhile the dealership is smiling all the way to the bank over a 500 dollar repair while you get to hold the bag for a few extra years....
The new 150's are fine. I have absolutely no worries about the 2017 SD's and will have one within the next year... Oh, and that's my vote too...
Not all is peachy on the 150 bodies.
My FIL's '16 tailights flex in almost 3/4" when you stand on the tail gate step.
He was showing it to me this weekend (as they just got it) and when he used the tailgate ladder for the first time there was a loud pop in the box somewhere.
Too early to tell if it's a workmanship issue as aluminum can be finicky to spot weld. It's at the dealership now.
He never asked about our crew truck beds that have been converted to flat beds prior to purchasing the truck either.
I was frank with my opinion to him but I also realize it's not my truck and I don't have to own it either.
For me it would be about trust. If my engine was replaced I would be thinking about it all the time, did they do it right, did they miss something, what was that noise, I never heard that before. I have had 2 low pressure pump failures in the last 5000 miles, I now carry a spare pump and filters with me, and I still worry and I did all the work. An engine replacement I might drive for a little while, but I don't think I would be comfortable, I wouldn't want to take it on long trips. I would have to know the diesel tech and know what his work reputation is if I were to keep it. My .02.
My FIL's '16 tailights flex in almost 3/4" when you stand on the tail gate step.
He was showing it to me this weekend (as they just got it) and when he used the tailgate ladder for the first time there was a loud pop in the box somewhere.
Too early to tell if it's a workmanship issue as aluminum can be finicky to spot weld. It's at the dealership now.
He never asked about our crew truck beds that have been converted to flat beds prior to purchasing the truck either.
I was frank with my opinion to him but I also realize it's not my truck and I don't have to own it either.
Wow, your father in laws truck has an issue. Definitely a sign of an epidemic. RUN FOREST RUN.
For me it would be about trust. If my engine was replaced I would be thinking about it all the time, did they do it right, did they miss something, what was that noise, I never heard that before. I have had 2 low pressure pump failures in the last 5000 miles, I now carry a spare pump and filters with me, and I still worry and I did all the work. An engine replacement I might drive for a little while, but I don't think I would be comfortable, I wouldn't want to take it on long trips. I would have to know the diesel tech and know what his work reputation is if I were to keep it. My .02.
I say you have 11k more miles to figure it out. I would see how the first run 2017's do in the wild and go from there... worst case, you should now pretty quick, which would man you could jump on a discounted 2016...
I went from my 2011 to my 2015 - was able to put $11k down in equity, got a much more optioned out truck for $80 less a month and with an extended warranty, that I didn't have on the 2011. FWIW, I did the monthly payment math and I really paid $500 a month to drive it. Heck the MSRP of my 2015 Platinum (from a Lariat) was more than $11k higher.
I'd do the math - how much can you get for your 2011. How much is the 2016 or 2017 you are looking at...
My own experience is that I have zero luck with vehicles. So I just pay the piper and always keep ones under warranty. I'd rather have a fixed amount leaving my bank account every month, rather than an unknown repair coming my way. I do much better that way, rather than putting money in a piggy bank and hoping there's enough in it when something breaks. I know people that CAN do that, and do very well that way... But I don't.
The engine in my '08 F250 was replaced while the truck was still new on the lot before I purchased it. I bought the truck new without ever knowing. The only way I could tell was by reading the OASIS report. Upon closer inspection the A/C condenser fins were a bit bent at the top, presumably from when the tech disassembled the front end. The truck ran and drove just like a brand new truck. I wouldn't be worried about a competent technician doing a heart transplant.
I'm also not worried about the next generation aluminum bodies. This is the heaviest load my '15 has seen on the tailgate:
While loading and unloading there were over 800 lbs on the tailgate, and I never noticed or felt anything untoward going on. The Super Duty will use a different box, and I'd be surprised if it wasn't a bit beefier than the one on my F150. The worst problem I've heard about in the F150 forum is the doors not being aligned right from the factory, which is something that can happen with a steel door.
Don't forget, ford has been using aluminum hoods and tailgates on the expedition for at least 8 years now? Prob more but not less. My wife's expy hood and tailgate look flawless after 7 years and 130k. But I understand your question about replacement panels.
FYI, the new color schemes where you can get black interior dash/carpet is really sharp and much easier to keep fresh looking. You could get a deal on a nice blue with that darker caribou too. The KR painted grill surround is also nice and the exhaust brake actually works too.....
The new F150's are very nice. If I had too much money (for use as a daily driver lol), I would own one without concern. The 2017's will be nice as well but I've yet to get over the grille design.
Tom - That picture says a 1,000 words about the strength of the tailgate. (and the tailgate cables) I'm no longer worried about Aluminum in the new trucks. No way is Ford going to release something that sucks in a super duty. They just finished clawing their way back from the 6.0 and 6.4 disasters... And with Ram having now worked out the main bugs in some of their weak links (like the tranny), it wouldn't take much for people to jump over to Ram. I mean, some, even on this forum have gone in for an oil change in their super duty and drove off in a Ram...
Tom - That picture says a 1,000 words about the strength of the tailgate. (and the tailgate cables) I'm no longer worried about Aluminum in the new trucks. No way is Ford going to release something that sucks in a super duty. They just finished clawing their way back from the 6.0 and 6.4 disasters... And with Ram having now worked out the main bugs in some of their weak links (like the tranny), it wouldn't take much for people to jump over to Ram. I mean, some, even on this forum have gone in for an oil change in their super duty and drove off in a Ram...
I would keep your current truck with new engine, then trade on a 17 SD... The driveline is proven and most of the body of the 17 is proven now with the F150s - so it's not like buying a mystery like many first year trucks (think 2011) are...
