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Apr 6, 2016 | 12:04 AM

#16

Country_Mouse

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Originally Posted by Bently_Coop

Your selling now?

OP- If you go V10 look for 4.30 gears in the rear end and stick with 2003+ models. If you look for a 6.0 keep an extra few thousand bucks aside for when it may need engine upgrades. Nothing to be scared about, just prepared.

Just curious, why 2003+ models? What am I missing with my '01?

Apr 6, 2016 | 12:49 AM

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The 2003+ mid year V10 engines received more threads in the head for spark plugs. Ensuring they are Torqued properly is the best thing. 20-25 ft lbs is recommended.

2002+ received standardized wiring making the 08+ mirrors not require adapters.

2000+ received the PI heads, Performance Increased, good for 30hp factory.

Apr 6, 2016 | 08:14 AM

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harley4jcs

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Originally Posted by Bently_Coop

The 2003+ mid year V10 engines received more threads in the head for spark plugs. Ensuring they are Torqued properly is the best thing. 20-25 ft lbs is recommended.

2002+ received standardized wiring making the 08+ mirrors not require adapters.

2000+ received the PI heads, Performance Increased, good for 30hp factory.

By Whom ???

Would that be ALL X's have the PI heads or just those produced after some date in 00 ??

Apr 6, 2016 | 08:27 AM

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fordboy2

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I have a 7.3 and a v10. Both are awesome set ups with different usage. I think for you I would by a v10. I just took mine to Florida from Michigan last weekend and we got 13.7 to 14.3 for fuel mileage. Not spectacular but not bad for what it is.

Apr 6, 2016 | 08:54 AM

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Bently_Coop

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Originally Posted by harley4jcs

By Whom ???

Would that be ALL X's have the PI heads or just those produced after some date in 00 ??

The Fordtechmakuloko video I posted along with several V10 members. 2000+ I believe all V10's received PI heads. Checking the casting numbers will confirm.

Apr 6, 2016 | 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Watcher58

You still haven't answered about adopting me. You need help driving those works of art---Dad!

Lol, damn kids cost more than the cars

Apr 6, 2016 | 12:39 PM

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ok so v10 or 7.3 for now , i fiund a 7.3 for 13k w 2xx miles on it but im not to crazy about it , and it good to know that i should stay 03 and up , thanks for the tip. 14 mpg is not scary at all for me thats what i get w my f150 right now

Apr 6, 2016 | 12:42 PM

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and the guy that says everything is rusted around here does have a point , not everysingle vehicle but most have rust on them which i will def avoid

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Apr 6, 2016 | 12:58 PM

#24

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From the sounds of it a clean as low mile as you can find V10 within your price range would be it, in my opinion of course.

Apr 6, 2016 | 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Bently_Coop

Ensuring they are Torqued properly is the best thing. 20-25 ft lbs is recommended.

This is not the first time I have seen this higher spec value posted. Did Ford change the torque values for spark plugs and raise them?

Stewart

Apr 6, 2016 | 02:48 PM

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Vwags

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Originally Posted by Stewart_H

This is not the first time I have seen this higher spec value posted. Did Ford change the torque values for spark plugs and raise them?

Stewart

This is the first place I saw the higher torque recommended #'s 28 and 51

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Apr 6, 2016 | 03:22 PM

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harley4jcs

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Originally Posted by Villero1834

Don't worry about it. I have (3) 2000's 100K,175K, & 199K...Have never spit a plug. Can it happen, YEP But you could throw a rod in a 7.3 as well. The fix is not to bad & the cure is even easier (torque the plugs correctly). Glad 14MPG does not scare you BECAUSE you should EXpect 10MPG

Q: Have the threads in the newer engines been upgraded?
A: Yes. most all 1997 to 2003 4.6L, 5.4L, 6.8L engines used the 4-5 thread design cylinder head. In late 2003 the SOHC 2 valve type engines were upgraded to a 8-10 thread spark plug design. The newer 3 valve type engines use a whole new type of sleeved spark plug.

Apr 6, 2016 | 06:05 PM

#28

Stewart_H

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Originally Posted by harley4jcs

In late 2003 the SOHC 2 valve type engines were upgraded to a 8-10 thread spark plug design.

One cannot make that claim because there was no specific date during the '03 MY run that Ford introduced the newer heads. So for the 5.4L Excursion it could have been very early in the MY run, and for the 5.4L F150 it could have been later. For the F150 Lightning it could have been in the middle of the '03 MY run and for the 4.6L Mustang it could have been with the very first car off the line. The V10 F-Series trucks might have been before or after the V10 Excursions, or none of the above. Heck, even some '02 modular engine users have reported they have the updated heads.

Until Ford used up all of the older heads, the newer, revised heads weren't introduced for each vehicle line and modular engine. It all depended on how many of the older heads Ford had left to use on the line, before the newer versions replaced them.

Stewart

Apr 6, 2016 | 06:09 PM

#29

Stewart_H

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Originally Posted by Vwags

This is the first place I saw the higher torque recommended #'s 28 and 51

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Thanks for that!

If it works for them, and a person trusts their claim.....

I know what works for me and I've been golden and haven't had a problem since my plug launch.

Stewart

Apr 8, 2016 | 11:02 AM

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Villero1834

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ok another thing that corncers me its the diesel and cold weather factor , now i have never driven a diesel before but the main reason why i wanted an excursion was the diesel option ,here in Nj we see a lot of snow (not lately lol) so whats the deal w diesel engines and cold starts , this truck must take me to work everyday during winter so it has to start lol.
sorry for my ignorance im really trying for the diesel , the more i read about the more i like it lol

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