Timetable for 2017's
Prolocutor
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Someday someone will honestly explain invoice pricing. It is said that other incentives control the actual price of the vehicles, not the invoice. Dealers deny this. It is said dealers can get discounts off the invoice price for sales volume, large orders and a host of other reasons. I have seen dealers (just a couple of weeks ago in fact) whip out an invoice and offer to sell the vehicle below that price. Some dealers advertise that all cars are below invoice. Well then. What does invoice actually mean? For sure if all cars are sold below invoice, assuming that is the price the dealer pays, how can they stay in business? And I know dealers, even the best of them, are not opening their doors just to give away vehicles.
The big thing to remember about invoice is called the "holdback." Most brands give the dealer around 3% under invoice. Here's a page explaining it and what each brand gives it's dealers. What Is Dealer Holdback? on Edmunds.com
You're also correct in assuming that there are dealer specific rebates that aren't made public. The only one who knows what a dealer really pays is the dealer...
Cargo Master
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X-Plan is .4 under invoice. I linked the page right from Ford just so there would be no confusion. There is an administrative fee, but even with it added in you're still at or just under invoice on a vehicle this expensive. If your buying a Festiva it would over invoice as the administrative fee would remain the same but the .4% under would be lot less.
On a $60k truck, the price is $35 over invoice.
Technically, I guess we are both right, though for the x-plan price to be under invoice, invoice would have to be higher than $68,750.
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Cargo Master
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Seriously though, I'm saving now in hopes of getting a 2020. I don't want (well, I do WANT, but won't get) a Platinum, but won't a decently loaded Lariat.
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” Ford product development engineer Jim Sumner said in a statement. “In more than 25 years of doing this work, we used the same dyno, which did the job, but the new truck is so powerful we needed new equipment to test out its capability.”
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That's what warranties are for I guess. 
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Need the SPECS to order my new F450
I am all set to pull the trigger on ordering a new F450. I'm just waiting for the specs so I don't have to listen to those DODGE (excuse me RAM) guys about who has the better numbers for towing.
As much as I would like to order it mid April I will try to make it to July.
Need some advice. Have a great 2008 F350 and several extras -- just turned 92K miles. Would it be better to trade it in -- or sell it outright.
Your words of wisdom would be appreciated.
bigdon68
As much as I would like to order it mid April I will try to make it to July.
Need some advice. Have a great 2008 F350 and several extras -- just turned 92K miles. Would it be better to trade it in -- or sell it outright.
Your words of wisdom would be appreciated.
bigdon68
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Search for diesel truck shops that market tuners and suspension work. Folks just LOVE to tune that 6.4 and the right buyer would pay top dollar. They can crank them up to 600hp with almost no other work than a tune.
Cargo Master
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I am all set to pull the trigger on ordering a new F450. I'm just waiting for the specs so I don't have to listen to those DODGE (excuse me RAM) guys about who has the better numbers for towing.
As much as I would like to order it mid April I will try to make it to July.
Need some advice. Have a great 2008 F350 and several extras -- just turned 92K miles. Would it be better to trade it in -- or sell it outright.
Your words of wisdom would be appreciated.
bigdon68
As much as I would like to order it mid April I will try to make it to July.
Need some advice. Have a great 2008 F350 and several extras -- just turned 92K miles. Would it be better to trade it in -- or sell it outright.
Your words of wisdom would be appreciated.
bigdon68
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From: NH
Any idea how many trucks have been ordered? Did all the dealers place their orders right away? Is this schedule still on track?