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Old Mar 23, 2016 | 06:52 PM
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replacement frames?

Trying my best to talk the wife into letting me get started on a frame off restore, the budget is pretty tight starting out, but my question is this, would I be better off starting with a replacement frame, (if anyone makes them.) or, go to a salvage yard, and start by stripping it down to the frame, and starting over with a rolling chassis?

I guess I'm looking for pros-vs-cons opinions.
 
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Old Mar 23, 2016 | 07:00 PM
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The biggest problem I see with that is legal. When you change frames, in most states you also change the VIN. The "legal" Ford VIN is stamped on the passenger side frame rail.
If you do get a salvage frame, be sure to get one that has a good title.
I don't think anyone makes a new replacement frame. You used to be able to buy replacement frame components from Ford but they've been obsolete for years.
 
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Old Mar 23, 2016 | 07:28 PM
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Let's hear about what you already have (pix are very helpful). Mike's advice on legality is very relevant. If you were to build (or have built) a frame, you'd need to get the help of the powers that be to make the vehicle built atop it acceptable for registration and all that.
 
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Old Mar 23, 2016 | 07:41 PM
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Notwithstanding the comments above, I suggest starting with the best and most complete truck that your money buys.


Be definite on the basics like drivetrain configuration, engine, year range(s), and trim level.
 
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Old Mar 23, 2016 | 08:55 PM
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I don't have anything yet, but it sounds like I better start out with talking to our local dentside salvage yard guy
 
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Old Mar 24, 2016 | 05:18 AM
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I will venture a guess and say that changing the frame might not have any effect on the registration of that vehicle. I also realize that different states have a lot more stringent regulations than I am familiar with. In Vermont you could change the frame once a year and not effect anything. I have changed the frames on many,many vehicles with severe damage over the years; used frames,factory new frames,repaired frames; all with no identity problems. On many of the Mopar muscle cars,the vin is stamped UNDER the front radiator support lip,under the trunk qtr.panel rubber, and of course is on the stamped dash tag.Change a support or a qtr. panel are you illegal? Nope. I think the legality might be from state to state. Maybe the steal & chop shops in some areas taint this hobby from doing this type of repair with good intent. gary
 
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Old Mar 24, 2016 | 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by HIO Silver
Notwithstanding the comments above, I suggest starting with the best and most complete truck that your money buys.


Be definite on the basics like drivetrain configuration, engine, year range(s), and trim level.
This is the exact way I went about my recent and in-progress frame up restorations. Everything has a price, so make sure your basics are in at least restoration condition. Remember, with these trucks you have plenty of room for changing and/or upgrading during your resto...just make sure you have a final goal.

I like you was more concerned about the frame condition, just a pet peeve for me but in my mind, the frame is the absolute starting point and structural security of the vehicle. If you take HIO's advice (which is sound) don't be afraid to get dirty and crawl around and under any perspective buy!

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Best regards on your build!
 
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