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Old Mar 19, 2016 | 06:03 PM
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Dammit - Steering Misadventures...

So this happened today:





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I think it's time to jump up to a Borgeson steering setup. Anyone made that move on their own truck?
 
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Old Mar 19, 2016 | 07:29 PM
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Looks same/similar to the rag joint assembly on my 65. Installed later model front disc so the rag joint probly slightly different, and I also selected a heavy duty joint; however, I would assume the assembly would be the same?

Did have a similar issues, after installing new bushings and bearings I did not align the steering shaft and shifting column correctly causing binding at the rag joint?



 
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Old Mar 20, 2016 | 11:37 AM
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I had someone else install the rag joint, so I'm not sure if they aligned everything... I'll ask them though. It was turning nice and smoothly until it broke though.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2016 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by HooniverseJeff
I had someone else install the rag joint, so I'm not sure if they aligned everything... I'll ask them though. It was turning nice and smoothly until it broke though.
You cannot use a Borgeson shaft on your 2WD.

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Old Mar 20, 2016 | 02:54 PM
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I believe that before the bolts that attach the rag joint are tightened the, steering column tube should be loosened at the dash AND where it comes thru the firewall. This will allow the column to move and the rag joint will not have a pre-load on it. If the rag joint is forced toward the steer box or the firewall (pre-loaded in either direction) the joint will not have the flexibility it was designed for, which "I Believe, My Opinion", was to allow some minor movement between cab and frame and help eliminate some vibration/feel up thru the steer column. It probably saved a bit of time on the assembly line too.

The upper picture looks like the column is to far up toward the firewall/dash and allowed the safety pins and slots to bypass each other. They need to stay well within each other.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2016 | 03:45 PM
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Looks like the rag joint had been "modified" previously. The rag portion appears to be a harder material than original, though it is difficult to be certain from the picture.

I would suggest installing a new rag joint, and making sure it was properly installed. That should give you years of trouble free operation.
 
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Old Jun 20, 2017 | 11:15 PM
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Looks like an incorrect coupler

I'm going through the same issue - have you seen this thread?

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...ag-joints.html
 
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Originally Posted by Jpopstar
I'm going through the same issue - have you seen this thread?

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...ag-joints.html
Has HooniverseJeff seen the other thread by...HooniverseJeff? God, I hope so. Seems like a ludicrous thing to ask, though.

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