Navy?

Diesel trucks are cool, pull like freight trains.... but you better be ready to work on it or have deep pockets.

Hope you got a great deal on it... your about to get an education!

 

It's a 05 with 138ish. I know what these are capable of mileage wise with maintenance and proper care. I was hoping to use it for awhile and sell it before I moved back to the ol stomping grounds. Then finally decided on joining and was just gonna try and sell it in Cali (figured it'd be difficult to sell a 2wd anywhere else as 4wd isn't really necessary for a strictly tow rig/dd here). To be honest I'm glad this happened to me because I wouldn't be ok with the next owner calling me to tell me this news. I'm glad it didn't happen to someone who really needed it for work to support a family etc. I woulda felt terrible.

So like I said above, I'll try and see what the dealership will do if anything. Worst case scenario I'm stuck with a loan on a pretty fancy paperweight. Definitely learned my lesson and will be very very cautious when buying my next vehicle. diesel or gas.

Thank all of you again so much for the quick responses and help. I see a lot of threads with people asking for help on other forums and even occasionally in here w/out much response so whatever made people decide to step in and give advice I really appreciate it.

I'll keep everyone posted with what the situation is. Hopefully there's a silver lining in this situation. Guess it's time to break out my "bowtie till I die" camo sweater again

 

Army actually. Navy didn't feel like the right choice for me.

That they are, I love wrenching and planned on doing so.. just didn't expect such a big repair so soon. I planned on keeping this one stock and healthy and once I sold it, would decide on a 6.6 dmax or find a nice 6.0/6.4.

I know I know.. I'm definitely mentally prepared for the worst. I made a purchase that I should have waited a few more years for. Just seemed like a great truck at a great price! Couldn't shy away from it.

Just got the crappy end of the stick on this one. Someone knew how to hide the problems and got away easy. Just wish people weren't like that but that's just the way it is.

 

Good on you!

Stay away from burning open pit fires if you go to Iraq/Afghanistan. Buddy of mine had a son in the Army, was a Captain. Died from cancer, his whole division was charged with burning munitions or whatever they determined needed burned. They watched to make sure someone didn't try to steal what went into the fire. Most of them have since died, all young men... doing there duty.

Good luck with the truck, stay safe!

 

Well thank you for the advice! I guess if I'm in that situation I'll let someone know but orders are orders..

So finally got to talk to the dealer. Basically said "as is no warranty", which I completely understand. I'm just hoping he's morally just and understands that this isn't a "typical used car maintenance" situation. I am going to go home and get my contract to read the terms of my warranty, there was some confusion about it and apparently it's a 100% replacement of all oiled parts/lubricated parts. I'm just hoping that the egr and oil cooler fall into that category. They aren't really lubricated.. but oil does pass through them so technically..?

At this point just hoping for the best and expecting the worst.

 

Might as well plan on doing the coolers and the head gaskets. Your system is leaking so bad, it's hard to tell how much is damage there really is. You could replace your egr cooler today and start puking coolant out of the degas bottle tomorrow.

Replacing the egr cooler and the oil cooler is about 3k in parts, fluids, and labor. Then if you find your head gaskets are failing, that could be another 3k or more on top of the first 3k. Or do them all at the same time for about 4500 and be certain.

 

That's what I plan on doing. Waiting to see what's covered and what isn't covered. According to the person at the dealership I've been talking too, it'll all be covered with a 100$ deductable. So waiting for the confirmation or bad news.

 

Had truck towed in today and they took a look. good/bad news

Hasn't been 100% diagnosed yet but the tech said egr cooler rupture (obviously) and he's pretty sure HG blew but will confirm with pressure test tomorrow. He also said they'll pull heads and visually inspect but still sent to a machine shop to check for cracks so hearing that made me feel better.
Long story short the warranty I purchased will cover it, but only up to a certain $ amount. Whatever is done over that dollar amount, the owner said he would take care of seeing as I just bought it and the tstat issue they didn't catch upon their initial inspection of the truck.
So I'll be getting:
HG, oil/egr coolers, studs, complete chemical flush of coolant system/new coolant, new oil/filter 100% covered. besides deductible of course but that's nothing compared to paying for it all out of pocket.
Possibly new heads but we'll see about that once they're inspected.

I asked about after the thumbs up from the warranty company, if I could somewhat pick and choose what parts are bought and installed. He said definitely and he'd even let me come down to the shop and order exactly what I wanted. whatever I order that goes over "budget" i'll have to pay the difference so I'm not holding my breath on that one. If that is an option, what's a somewhat budget based parts list y'all would go with?

I definitely want oem gaskets, but what about fel-pro? Id like comedic but $$$
Oil and egr coolers? Id like all BPD stuff and their prices aren't terrible but I don't want dorman.
obviously arp studs
is there anything I'm missing? I'd like this to be a one and done ordeal. I don't want to spend much of my own seeing as I got the warranty for a reason but I also don't want to run into the same situation in a years time.

 

I just went through all this in January. I went with oem head gaskets, oem oil cooler, bpd egr cooler, and arp head studs.

A1 Technologies also makes a good head stud kit for the 6.0 but it was way more expensive than the arp kit when I did mine. Now it looks like they are about the same price as arp. So you might have a choice to make there.

 

Yeah I guess I'll have to look into that. thank you
any reason you went with oem cooler over bpd?

 

My delta's before the rebuild were good and I had 212k miles on. I figured what I had was working just fine so didn't mess with it. Plus I was already into it like 7k and was just done financially. Besides the head gasket job, I also got a new turbo, PS pump, and FICM at the same time to hopefully avoid any downtime the rest of this year. I didn't want to spend any more money.

At 225k now and so far so good.

 

That's good. Luckily my turbo is good to go. I'll talk to them and have them pull it and clean it just so if something is needed they'll catch it while it's apart.

 

Hey everybody finally back with an update.

Long story short, the warranty (of course) won't cover it. Heads were warped. Funny thing is the truck never over heated. The highest reading I got was not high enough for it to cause that kind of damage I would think.
Anyways, warped heads, blown gaskets, blown egr cooler.

So for new heads, coolers, gaskets, flush, oil and coolant he's only going to charge me $2k. Which is low, but I'm getting oem everything except for heads. Which hurts, I'd of course rather have ford remans but I've heard bad about those too.
Anyways he quoted me 6500 for the job, and dropped it down to 2000 to help me. Which I appreciate but I still don't feel I should have to pay anything. Either way the truck will be running again, for how long who knows.
If I had the extra money I'd make sure to stud it and all but I can't swing that right now after just putting 3500 down on it a couple months ago. I'm already gonna have to borrow a couple hundred just so I have enough in the bank to cover other bills. Couldn't have come at a worse time for me financially but I gambled and lost.

At least I'm not at 6500!

Thank you all again for the help. Any advice with what to watch? Besides typical eot/ect temps and what not?

 

Sorry to hear about all the trouble with your new truck. I don't think you overheated it. Someone else did before you bought it.

It sucks but hopefully someone can read this and maybe prevent this from happening to someone else in the future.

Once you're rebuilt, main things you want to watch is your ficm, fuel pressure, boost, exhaust temp, and engine oil/coolant temp delta. Good luck.

 

Just wanted to thank everyone again for the help and guidance

Got the truck back on wed and wanted to cruise around for awhile before posting.
took a lot longer than I expected but I'm glad to have her back.

They were a little rough with it (greasy hand prints on my cloth seats/broken wire harness) which makes me question how well they handled the important pieces but everything is running well. Deltas are good avg 3-7* both temps are good highest i've seen was 207 after just given'er to drop the lady off for a flight.
coolant was neon green, tall napa style oil cap. So just to be safe I flushed/backflushed and went with the gold. bought a coolant filter threw that on last night and swapped for oem oil filter and cap. next is egt probe for my insight.

just to touch on choosing gold, I spoke with a tech at a very reputable shop in vista (been featured in diesel world a few times) and we decided that with the filter and my now enlightened state of my coolant system, that the gold would be fine. I know most everybody hates on it and goes ELC.

So other than that I think it's all taken care of. I glance at my insight pretty often and went through and set alerts for temp spikes and voltages.

Last question I have for y'all involves my ficm. from what I've read and understood, 48v is normal and good. 45v will kill injectors. I average at 48 but upon startup and during normal driving it'll hit 47.5 and that's the lowest I've seen it. so when I do it, I'm going with Ed and the atlas 40, but just for reassurance.. when should I plan on doing it? if it starts to touch on 45-46?

thanks again