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Old Mar 19, 2016 | 11:46 PM
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Yeah it's not showing up I'm not sure. I know of one in Escondido very close to my house. He was the first person I called when I pulled the old tstat out but he was closing and I wasn't gonna hassle him over the weekend. I don't think they'd mind the free advertising but rules are rules. Shoot me an email if you get a chance. gwelker3@gmail.com
 
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Old Mar 20, 2016 | 02:44 AM
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That sucks and good luck interested to hear what's going on with it. If you do take it to dealer have them provide you diagnostic printout then go back to the place you bought it and see what they will do. I had issues with my 2005 F350 not engine related but rather rear end was shot when I text drove it didn't notice it and bought the truck only to find out few days later I was looking at nearly $4k in labor and parts. I had Ford diagnose it and give me the print out I went back to shop I bought it from in Orange County, CA and they fixed it along with four brand new rear tires. Tires were extra and only because I was Military and bought from them before they didn't want to do me wrong. Don't get me wrong they put up a fight but I fought back. They buy and sell auction trucks so I didn't put all the blame on them I expected things to be wrong just not something that costly.

Any ways good luck I do all my own work on my 6.0 but there are some reputable shops up here in Orange County if you need help.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2016 | 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Irish19614x4
That sucks and good luck interested to hear what's going on with it. If you do take it to dealer have them provide you diagnostic printout then go back to the place you bought it and see what they will do. I had issues with my 2005 F350 not engine related but rather rear end was shot when I text drove it didn't notice it and bought the truck only to find out few days later I was looking at nearly $4k in labor and parts. I had Ford diagnose it and give me the print out I went back to shop I bought it from in Orange County, CA and they fixed it along with four brand new rear tires. Tires were extra and only because I was Military and bought from them before they didn't want to do me wrong. Don't get me wrong they put up a fight but I fought back. They buy and sell auction trucks so I didn't put all the blame on them I expected things to be wrong just not something that costly.

Any ways good luck I do all my own work on my 6.0 but there are some reputable shops up here in Orange County if you need help.
I'm sorry to hear about that but I'm glad you got it fixed! Those extra two tires really hit ya hard huh?
Thank you for the info, again I can't thank all of y'all enough. When I get home, I'll post a picture of the egr valve. Shouldn't be long till I get it up just can't do it on my phone.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2016 | 10:10 PM
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I'm sorry to hear about that but I'm glad you got it fixed! Those extra two tires really hit ya hard huh?
Thank you for the info, again I can't thank all of y'all enough. When I get home, I'll post a picture of the egr valve. Shouldn't be long till I get it up just can't do it on my phone.
Well this happen two years ago when I bought the truck. Like I said they replaced all four tires for me hence it being a Dually and as a matter of fact I still have the same rear tires with tread left. By taxes next year I'll be replacing them but yes glad they replaced and not me. Easily four tires for the truck will be $1000. Replaced my front ones a year ago and I paid $450 and they wern't anything special just what discount tires had at the time.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2016 | 10:11 PM
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Also almost every oil change I remove my EGR valve clean it and put it back in just something I do and it always has carbon build up but nothing wet.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2016 | 10:21 PM
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Ok so here is the picture, again I'm sorry it took awhile for me to post it. Ya'll responded so fast I felt bad that I couldn't do it sooner. Just because my truck needs help that doesn't mean life stops.

So I parked it nose down, and pulled it. A lot of moisture around/on the valve cover, and on the intake elbow. Once removed you can see in the picture how clean it is. Definitely surprising as I expected it to be caked with soot.

Slow painful crank and startup, but had to move it out of the driveway so I can hopefully have it towed tomorrow. I'm hoping that's the last time I have to start it up until it's fixed. anyways, coolant dripping out of my cat, thinner white smoke. Very smelly of course.

Also, I tried the pressure test with the degas cap, after letting it get to operating temperature (which it does so much faster now thanks to my new non tampered with thermostat! ) It did build up pressure again after I reinstalled the cap. Not enough to puke coolant, but if I remember correctly that usually only happens when a load is put on the truck. right?

Either way, the distilled water is still disappearing, the truck is still smoking with coolant/water dripping from the cat, rough start (fine idle), and clean/dry EGR valve but moisture around egr valve housing (not sure of real term) and intake elbow.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2016 | 10:24 PM
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Looking into the hole that came from, no moisture inside the intake?

I'm sitting in a hotel, why the fast replies.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2016 | 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by welker6.0
Ok so here is the picture, again I'm sorry it took awhile for me to post it. Ya'll responded so fast I felt bad that I couldn't do it sooner. Just because my truck needs help that doesn't mean life stops.

So I parked it nose down, and pulled it. A lot of moisture around/on the valve cover, and on the intake elbow. Once removed you can see in the picture how clean it is. Definitely surprising as I expected it to be caked with soot.

Slow painful crank and startup, but had to move it out of the driveway so I can hopefully have it towed tomorrow. I'm hoping that's the last time I have to start it up until it's fixed. anyways, coolant dripping out of my cat, thinner white smoke. Very smelly of course.

Also, I tried the pressure test with the degas cap, after letting it get to operating temperature (which it does so much faster now thanks to my new non tampered with thermostat! ) It did build up pressure again after I reinstalled the cap. Not enough to puke coolant, but if I remember correctly that usually only happens when a load is put on the truck. right?

Either way, the distilled water is still disappearing, the truck is still smoking with coolant/water dripping from the cat, rough start (fine idle), and clean/dry EGR valve but moisture around egr valve housing (not sure of real term) and intake elbow.
I can't see anything wet on your EGR but that looks to me normal. It's about what mine looks like almost everytime I clean it. First time I did it was pretty badly caked up but now not so bad because I do it regular basis. Make sure the valve is working it has a center piece that should move.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2016 | 10:32 PM
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Looking into the hole that came from, no moisture inside the intake?

I'm sitting in a hotel, why the fast replies.
Yes moist.
Popped oil fill cap and looked like beads of water. Forgot to take a picture. Girlfriend was getting antsy to leave.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2016 | 10:33 PM
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You mentioned water/coolant dripping from your cat? You have no muffler or tail pipe past the cat? Maybe typo and you meant exhaust tip or muffler.

If you can get away with it and not register truck in California ditch the factory exhaust and get yourself MBRP turbo back exhaust or something similar. Keep old stuff in case you want to sell it and convert back but it will help truck. Just my two cents and others might disagree but other than my truck can be loud and have the turbo whistle from time to time I love it and she loves me for it. Mine is 4" piping!
 
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Old Mar 20, 2016 | 10:34 PM
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If that's the first time its been removed, then something is wrong. It should be caked... remember what were trying to trouble shoot, blowing white smoke.

I'd say it may be steam cleaned. Most likely you have a ruptured EGR cooler that led to blown head gaskets. Coolant gets into the cylinder on two ways. EGR ruptures from a clogged oil cooler, then coolant flows into the heads thru the intake and them lifts a head and the gasket goes.

I'd be looking for an oil cooler, EGR cooler (California smog or you could delete it) and probably head gaskets as well.... that pressure in the degas comes from compression once it reaches normal operating temps, you said it built up again and it should build much if any after the first venting as long as temps don't increase.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2016 | 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Irish19614x4
You mentioned water/coolant dripping from your cat? You have no muffler or tail pipe past the cat? Maybe typo and you meant exhaust tip or muffler.
First was pooled up in exhaust tip. I've got a 6x12 tip. (Of course) so lots of area to pool up.
Now it's dripping from muffler not cat sorry for that.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2016 | 10:40 PM
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If that's the first time its been removed, then something is wrong. It should be caked... remember what were trying to trouble shoot, blowing white smoke.

I'd say it may be steam cleaned. Most likely you have a ruptured EGR cooler that led to blown head gaskets. Coolant gets into the cylinder on two ways. EGR ruptures from a clogged oil cooler, then coolant flows into the heads thru the intake and them lifts a head and the gasket goes.

I'd be looking for an oil cooler, EGR cooler (California smog or you could delete it) and probably head gaskets as well.... that pressure in the degas comes from compression once it reaches normal operating temps, you said it built up again and it should build much if any after the first venting as long as temps don't increase.
X2 on the above, I forgot to say if yours was first time removed it would be worse which like I said mine was pretty bad first time I removed it but more like yours now when I do it regular.

I think you defiantly got some issues going on hopefully not going to cost you a ton of cash but when done right it will last you.

I had Excursion before my F350 and I know that had oil mixing with coolant and puking. Oil cooler failure, etc... At the time I didn't know any better and got rid of truck to what I have now.

How many miles on yours and what year again? Sorry being lazy and on my phone didn't want to look back.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2016 | 10:47 PM
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Yes moist.
Popped oil fill cap and looked like beads of water. Forgot to take a picture. Girlfriend was getting antsy to leave.

We were typing at the same time. Whats the oil dip stick look like... a milkshake?

Wet intake is a blown EGR cooler. Milkshake oil is a blown oil cooler. The oil is cooled first, then the coolant flow to the EGR cooler and when the iol cooler starts sending less coolant and hotter coolant because its plugged, the EGR cooler will rupture from the excess heat, it basically steams the coolant and ruptures. That allows coolant into the intake (its wet) and then into the cylinders.... why its coming out the tail pipe.

ERG cooler and oil cooler replacement, your looking at minimum $2500 and with the possibility of heads.... another $3000-5000. If you got the whole thing done under $5000 would be a miracle for a California job.. and why I'm going to say this.... I'd tow that truck to the dealer and stick it where the sun don't shine!

Take your dad down there and let them have it.

I'm a retired sailor... if you don't mind me asking. What are you going to do with a diesel going to boot camp in a few months? Towing anything big? These trucks require a ton of maintenance to keep running well and the one you have is going to cost a small fortune to repair. You should consider a gasser for now.. not really my business, guess its a military thing, like we're brothers and all.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2016 | 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by WatsonR
We were typing at the same time. Whats the oil dip stick look like... a milkshake?

Wet intake is a blown EGR cooler. Milkshake oil is a blown oil cooler. The oil is cooled first, then the coolant flow to the EGR cooler and when the iol cooler starts sending less coolant and hotter coolant because its plugged, the EGR cooler will rupture from the excess heat, it basically steams the coolant and ruptures. That allows coolant into the intake (its wet) and then into the cylinders.... why its coming out the tail pipe.

ERG cooler and oil cooler replacement, your looking at minimum $2500 and with the possibility of heads.... another $3000-5000. If you got the whole thing done under $5000 would be a miracle for a California job.. and why I'm going to say this.... I'd tow that truck to the dealer and stick it where the sun don't shine!

Take your dad down there and let them have it.

I'm a retired sailor... if you don't mind me asking. What are you going to do with a diesel going to boot camp in a few months? Towing anything big? These trucks require a ton of maintenance to keep running well and the one you have is going to cost a small fortune to repair. You should consider a gasser for now.. not really my business, guess its a military thing, like we're brothers and all.
Completely agree and understand. I had a 5.3 1500 before the ford. Loved it. Easy to work on a cheap to maintain.
Always loved and wanted a diesel. We've got toy haulers and trailers and wanted it to tow an overnight trailer to ocotilla with the girl. Planned on getting rid of it after basic and saving up for something nicer.

This definitely won't be my last diesel, but probably be awhile before I get another.

I'll be working on the dealer asap. As soon as I can get in there and sant what they'll dant.
 
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