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Old Mar 12, 2016 | 11:11 AM
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replace or reseal injector?

OK so I thought I cracked an injector tip because it was blowing white smoke. Figured it was number 5 or number 7 injector and pulled them. Neither tip looks cracked but number 7 seals are shot. I'm thinking seals will be fine engine was running fine before.
 
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Old Mar 12, 2016 | 12:40 PM
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id replace


that's starting to fail


unless the holddown was loose
 
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Old Mar 12, 2016 | 01:21 PM
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I think who ever did the previous work used wrong seals but I could be wrong.
 
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Old Mar 12, 2016 | 01:33 PM
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That lower o ring doesn't look good either. Maybe it's just the angle but I don't think so.
 
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Old Mar 12, 2016 | 01:54 PM
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It looks burnt

The wrong seal would have failed withinn a couple hundred miles IMO

Possible the spools are sticky over fueling you could open it up
 
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Old Mar 12, 2016 | 02:12 PM
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That bottom seal was trashed and while I was figuring out what was happening I hydrolocked the engine with the starter not while running. Pulled number 5 and number 7. Copper seal didn't come out with 7 but it doesn't even look like there was one in the injector cup.

I'm guessing since the bottom rubber seal took a dump while I was checking code fuel was getting past and dumping in the cyclinder.

How long do yall think a seal would last if auto shop didn't put a copper seal on the injector? It's been over two years since had work done in there.
 
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Old Mar 12, 2016 | 02:32 PM
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Well there is no copper seal in the injector cup so it fill off some where when I took the injector out or the shop never installed one.
 
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Old Mar 12, 2016 | 03:01 PM
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It wouldn't make it 20 miles without a copper seal

The seal burned up from over fuel
 
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Whats yalls opinion on this injector cup?
 
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Old Mar 12, 2016 | 06:28 PM
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Clean it and drop a new inject in
 
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And make sure to get that oil out of the hold down bolt holes
 
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Old Mar 13, 2016 | 03:12 AM
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Sure looks like what happens when one is under torqued.
Also anytime an injector has to come out if a new one is
not going back in you must replace the copper and the
O-rings with new.

One thing that looks questionable is that injector has surface
rust and it should not have any. Should be bright like the upper
body and not rust pitted like it is.

Look around and make sure that washer did not fall off and drop
down the oil return holes at the lower edge of the rocker box.

P.S. Benny check your oil cooler post for my post I added more to it.
Part number for the IH cooler kit.

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Yeah I cleaned out all the holes for the injector hold down and for the oil rail. I got everything back togather now and started it up. I replaced the injector harness also the old one was falling apart. Tell a huge difference with the new wiring. Injector buzz sounds a lot stronger. Truck smoked for a few minutes and has cleared up.






What do you think is causing the surface rust on the injector? I am using motorcraft fuel filters and always filling up at stations that get high volume.
 
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You might want to check you fuel tank for water.
Also one other thing could be entrained water and
some use of emulsifier to cause the water to get past
the water barrier that is part of the filter in the HFCM.




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Old Mar 13, 2016 | 08:53 PM
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Never used an emulsifier in it. Only additive I have used is 2 stroke and power service grey bottle. Fuel filters I used Napa filters once when I first got it and changed shortly after doing some reading on this forum to motorcraft but I'll check it out.
 
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