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Old Mar 7, 2016 | 04:45 PM
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6.2L Value

I have a 2012 F350 Crew Cab Lariat with 6.2L and have thought about upgrading to diesel for more power and supposedly better value. They say you get it back when you trade so the upfront expense is no big deal. So I checked KBB on my truck and the exact same thing had I gotten a diesel. Wrong. It was only $4000 difference now. However upfront was $8000 plus I would have gotten the extra warranty that I've heard is like $2500 because I wouldn't dare go without it on the diesel. Can someone confirm the extra care price? So now I'm excited to see new power numbers for 2017 gassers and maybe I'll stick with the 6.2L and just order the 4.3 rear.
 
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Old Mar 7, 2016 | 05:15 PM
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I don't know about the extra care price, I'm not into diesel care anymore. But I too am very excited to see the bumped power numbers combined with the specific 6.2 tranny. These 2 things combined with me going to 4.30's next time will make a great truck even better. Those 2017 numbers should be out really soon I would think...
 
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Old Mar 7, 2016 | 05:42 PM
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I can't blame anyone wanting a diesel. If you tow heavy a lot and drive hundreds of miles then....oh wait...RvPuller does that with his 6.2
If you really want one go ahead we all have tried different things.
As far as real world trade in go check it out. I get frustrated with those online blue book door dads.
 
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Old Mar 7, 2016 | 05:48 PM
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I can't complain how this 6.2L tows. I love the truck, but more power is always welcome!
 
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Old Mar 7, 2016 | 06:14 PM
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When I got my 2000 V10 2WD DRW I was told I would never get anything out of it, well 13 years later I got top dollar for it. The biggest thing is to keep them looking nice for resale. I've also found that people really don't want older diesels because of there high cost of repairs.

Yes more power is always nice but I can't see paying a premium for it when you only need it maybe 2% of the time. It will be interesting to see what the power increase will be for 2017 6.2.

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Old Mar 7, 2016 | 06:25 PM
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That's a good point Denny. No one wants to buy an old diesel. Nothing beats the reliability of the 6.2 either.
 
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Old Mar 7, 2016 | 06:44 PM
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6.2L Value

I tend to keep my trucks and cars for a long time and when I do sell or trade they are getting to the end of their useful life. My V10 was still running great but the transmission was beginning to show warning signs that its pulling life was ending and the front end needed work.

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Old Mar 8, 2016 | 12:19 AM
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There's always someone in the market for a good clean truck. It seems like the 6.2L is getting a good following.
 
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Old Mar 8, 2016 | 05:36 AM
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new type diesels are new to EPA equipment... so parts are pricy and misunderstood.


where as the Gas ones have EPA stuff since the 1970's.. well developed and a lot less costly ..


plus the 6.2L was developed for Truck work. not a carryover car engine. and it shows.
 
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Old Mar 8, 2016 | 05:41 AM
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Can't see the extra cost and expense of the diesel unless you tow heavy every day. Plus I would be cautious about buying a used diesel for that same reason. Paid $32500 for a new F250 scsb4x4 v10 manual tranny 2000, 133500 miles. Just sold it for$7000 and Could have got $8000 if I wanted to wait. Not a bad return in my opinion. Just ordered the 2016 6.2 with 4.3 and expect it to be everything my 2000 was and more. Could not see paying more for the 2017 with the rebates and all on the 2016's. But, it is your money and decision.
 
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Old Mar 9, 2016 | 08:47 PM
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I'll start with saying I really want a 6.2 as my next truck, and I also know this thread is about the 6.2 value. But people said no one wants older diesels. I disagree. As anyone looked at prices of nice 7.3's lately?... It's insane. My 05 6.0 is worth 14k all day long. My similar 06 5.4 is worth 5k. My 02 5.4 isn't worth much of anything. A similar 7.3 is like 12k
 
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Old Mar 9, 2016 | 10:35 PM
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I'll start with saying I really want a 6.2 as my next truck, and I also know this thread is about the 6.2 value. But people said no one wants older diesels. I disagree. As anyone looked at prices of nice 7.3's lately?... It's insane. My 05 6.0 is worth 14k all day long. My similar 06 5.4 is worth 5k. My 02 5.4 isn't worth much of anything. A similar 7.3 is like 12k
That's if you find the right buyer for that price. I see these guys asking those kind of prices but they have the truck longer than they want and 95% of the time after a couple of weeks they always come down on the price a few thousands.
 
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Old Mar 10, 2016 | 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by kerm7807
I have a 2012 F350 Crew Cab Lariat with 6.2L and have thought about upgrading to diesel for more power and supposedly better value. They say you get it back when you trade so the upfront expense is no big deal. So I checked KBB on my truck and the exact same thing had I gotten a diesel. Wrong. It was only $4000 difference now. However upfront was $8000 plus I would have gotten the extra warranty that I've heard is like $2500 because I wouldn't dare go without it on the diesel. Can someone confirm the extra care price? So now I'm excited to see new power numbers for 2017 gassers and maybe I'll stick with the 6.2L and just order the 4.3 rear.
I think people will start to see a change in the longevity of the gas engines which will help the resale. People are more likely to buy a diesel with 150-200k on the clock because supposedly it will run forever. Whereas older gas engines would need work at 150k.
Part of the reason they bring higher prices used is like you said the initial cost is higher. So the same truck with a gas engine new is 35k but with diesel its 43/44.
So the perception is that it holds its value when it is more expensive to begin with so its not exactly a fair comparison.
The 7.3 trucks selling for 15k are a joke in my opinion. Those trucks were 25k new
 
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Old Mar 10, 2016 | 06:17 PM
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Dont forget the extra sales tax and financing costs for the diesel , plus higher maintenance cost and repair costs. Almost everytime something went wrong with my 7.3 it cost a thousand dollars minimum. And also higher sales tax on repairs and maintenance because it was more expensive to repair and maintain.
 
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Old Mar 12, 2016 | 05:41 AM
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I'm struggling with the 6.2/6.7 decision for a 2017 as well. I've concluded that the overall cost is lower for the 6.7.

It appears that most 6.2 4.30 rear trucks average 12 mpg and 6.7 3.55 rear trucks average 16 mpg for the type of driving I do. Some claim higher mileage (up to 16 for the 6.2 and 22 for the 6.7), but reading a lot on this leads me to the 12/16 conclusion.

In the 12 year, 240k mile time I keep trucks, the 6.2 will burn around 20,000 gallons of gas and the 6.7 will burn 15,000.

With today's prices, which will likely rise and make this a bigger impact, fuel cost:
6.2: 20,000 * $1.80 = $36,000
6.7: 15,000 * $2.05 = $30,750

That $5250 benefit for the 6.7 would be over $8k with last year's fuel prices.

Then you factor in $8k 6.7 premium, resale, DEF, more oil for maintenance, risk of major 6.7 failure (pessimistic view is 1% risk of a $15k failure = $150), etc., etc., the total cost of ownership seems to be in favor of the 6.7.

To me it comes down to which is more pleasant to drive. If the 6.7 spends much time in the shop, that greatly decreases its fun factor. I haven't come to an conclusion yet, but am still leaning toward the 6.7.
 
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