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Old Mar 5, 2016 | 11:53 AM
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Catalytic Converter

I seen some old post but nonever hi the nail on the head.
I purchased a 1979 f150 4x4 with headers, a muffler on each side with pipes curved out to the side. Did this truck come with a catalytic converter? If so is there a problem with not having one on it? I would need to join pipes together before mufflers if so. I live in Tennessee if that matters.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2016 | 11:58 AM
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There isn't a technical reason as far as the truck is concerned, but you'll have to answer yourself whether one is required depending on your state, or maybe the county where it is registered, if there is emissions testing. It is unlawful to tamper with or remove as a matter of federal legislation, if it was OEM. Maybe there's a sticker on the radiator support listing "Catalyst" or whatever. I'd have thought by '79 everything had them.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2016 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Tedster9
There isn't a technical reason as far as the truck is concerned, but you'll have to answer yourself whether one is required depending on your state, or maybe the county where it is registered, if there is emissions testing. It is unlawful to tamper with or remove as a matter of federal legislation, if it was OEM. Maybe there's a sticker on the radiator support listing "Catalyst" or whatever. I'd have thought by '79 everything had them.
Okay I'll check, as far as emissions tests, no my County doesn't have annual inspection requirement. Thanks
 
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Old Mar 5, 2016 | 12:05 PM
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Yes, that truck had a converter & a air pump.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2016 | 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by mark a.
Yes, that truck had a converter & a air pump.
Thanks for info. Rookie f150 owner, what's air pump for? Lol!
 
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Old Mar 5, 2016 | 01:40 PM
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A problem with catalysts is they contain things like platinum inside to do their job so they are specifically targeted by thieves (who maybe garner $25 or $50) for something that might cost several hundred dollars for the owner to replace.

When they get old or the engine is in poor tune they typically become clogged and a restriction on the exhaust system, so they might be removed for that reason.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2016 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Tedster9
A problem with catalysts is they contain things like platinum inside to do their job so they are specifically targeted by thieves (who maybe garner $25 or $50) for something that might cost several hundred dollars for the owner to replace.

When they get old or the engine is in poor tune they typically become clogged and a restriction on the exhaust system, so they might be removed for that reason.
Okay, yes I am aware of the value of scrap converters. Very true what you say about thieves. The missing converter has nothing to do with performance on my engine, correct? I was concerned about may be a officer checking under vehicle. Where is purchased truck must have inspections, the title says exempt. I know in NC a friend of mine has a 79 f250 and he does not have to get annual inspections. Thanks.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2016 | 02:06 PM
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Nope, no effect on performance, except when they clog up.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2016 | 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Tedster9
Nope, no effect on performance, except when the clog up.
Thank you and all others commenters as well. I'll pass on buying one when I redo exhaust system.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2016 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by mark a.
Yes, that truck had a converter & a air pump.
I am not sure if this applies but just thought I would respond because I don't clearly understand how some trucks got the converter & air pump and others didn't.....I am in Canada so that might even add another twist (We seem to have lots of fresh air so no one cares about pollution!).

My father & brother each bought new 1979 F150's. The 4WD/400/4 speed was not factory equipped with the converter & air pump--it was (and still is) a great truck. The other truck was a 2WD/400/auto and it was factory equipped with the converter & air pump--it was not as good as the non-cat/air pump truck (hence was re-sold a few years later).
 
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My 78 did not come with a cat. Some emission components were not required in some states . I think my 79 did not have one either ....
And here in Tennessee .. If no testing , Not required .
 
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Originally Posted by Red Mercury
I am not sure if this applies but just thought I would respond because I don't clearly understand how some trucks got the converter & air pump and others didn't.....I am in Canada so that might even add another twist (We seem to have lots of fresh air so no one cares about pollution!).

My father & brother each bought new 1979 F150's. The 4WD/400/4 speed was not factory equipped with the converter & air pump--it was (and still is) a great truck. The other truck was a 2WD/400/auto and it was factory equipped with the converter & air pump--it was not as good as the non-cat/air pump truck (hence was re-sold a few years later).
What is the air pump for? Tire pump?
 
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Air pump was an emissions component . It supplied fresh air into the exaust to help with emissions .
 
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Originally Posted by JWC 3
Air pump was an emissions component . It supplied fresh air into the exaust to help with emissions .
I had no clue. Thanks
 
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A quick way to see if your truck was originally factory equipped with catalytic converters is check the fuel gauge, does it say "FUEL" or "UNLEADED"? Unleaded means it came with converters. Another way is to check the fuel filler neck. Is it wide open, or does it have a restrictor? A restrictor for the smaller unleaded nozzle also means factory equipped with converters.
 
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