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Old Feb 27, 2016 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Ancona
I think he has that a little backwards. The guy should watch this comparison test of a 2014 vs 2015:

2015 Ford F-150 vs. 2014 F-150 - Crash test to compare repair costs - YouTube
You misunderstand I think...

He is not saying the same damage in steel would be more expensive. He is saying if it were steel the damage would have been more extensive.

Major steel damage will cost more than minor aluminum damage even if repairing aluminum is more expensive hour for hour.

The aluminum panels seem to take impacts better from what videos I've seen.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2016 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeDVB
You misunderstand I think...

He is not saying the same damage in steel would be more expensive. He is saying if it were steel the damage would have been more extensive.

Major steel damage will cost more than minor aluminum damage even if repairing aluminum is more expensive hour for hour.

The aluminum panels seem to take impacts better from what videos I've seen.
I am not misunderstanding, but perhaps you are?

I will try to be more clear.

My point is, I believe there would have been less damage in steel vs aluminum, as the head-to-head crash test video shows.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2016 | 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Frantz
And I only get my news from memes on facebook....

Seriously you can't compare one accident type to all types of damage. Did you not see the Edmund one where the guy could hardly put a good dent in the side of the F150?
Yes, I did and I can tell you from what I saw, the guy does not swing a sledge hammer for a living.

And I did not see him swing that sledge hammer at a steel F-150 for comparison. Did you? Where is the comparison?
 
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Old Feb 29, 2016 | 08:48 AM
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Bring your truck in and we'll try.

You should try trolling with the Socratic method, it works better than posting videos and talking out your rear. I'll assume my body guy knows more than you do about damages, as that's how he makes his living. In this specific situation it was better to have aluminum. I would be open to the concept that an offset might go to the steel panels, though it still seems you are comparing cost where as I'm comparing damage. Frankly I would rather have a less dent prone truck like the aluminum body seems to be. If it's a major crash I don't really care how much it cost, cause that goes to my insurance company.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2016 | 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Frantz
Bring your truck in and we'll try.

You should try trolling with the Socratic method, it works better than posting videos and talking out your rear. I'll assume my body guy knows more than you do about damages, as that's how he makes his living. In this specific situation it was better to have aluminum. I would be open to the concept that an offset might go to the steel panels, though it still seems you are comparing cost where as I'm comparing damage. Frankly I would rather have a less dent prone truck like the aluminum body seems to be. If it's a major crash I don't really care how much it cost, cause that goes to my insurance company.
The video speaks for itself. And you can assume what you want. If you don't like the facts, that's not my problem. One more time, I am not comparing costs. But since you brought it up again, maybe you should talk to your insurance company about it. Tell them you don't care because the cost goes to them. And then they can explain to you how premiums work.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2016 | 05:01 AM
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I've seen the head to head crash video of the 2014 and 2015 trucks. The aluminum truck looked like it took more damage than the steel truck but in the end, the steel truck would still need a new head lamp assembly, a new front fender, bumper and who knows what damage lies beneath.

Pretty much the same as the aluminum truck. If the aluminum trucks were less safe then the guys buying them would be taking a bath right now on their premiums. However, they are not.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2016 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Frantz
Bring your truck in and we'll try.

You should try trolling with the Socratic method, it works better than posting videos and talking out your rear. I'll assume my body guy knows more than you do about damages, as that's how he makes his living. In this specific situation it was better to have aluminum. I would be open to the concept that an offset might go to the steel panels, though it still seems you are comparing cost where as I'm comparing damage. Frankly I would rather have a less dent prone truck like the aluminum body seems to be. If it's a major crash I don't really care how much it cost, cause that goes to my insurance company.
As I was waiting yesterday to complete the purchase of my new truck, while my 2014 F 250 was parked next to the 16 F150, I kinda pushed on the body panels of both, the steel panels on the 250 have alot more "give" in them than does the new beer can () 150, also, as far as PDR, steel, as thin as it is in modern autos, will distort way more than the aluminum panels on my new truck. I agree that the process in MAJOR body work will be more expensive (until more shops have actually upgraded their facilities to accommodate aluminum repair) but, the new F150 will resist damage better. The dent you started the thread with more than likely would have required body filler in a steel vehicle,due to the crease, and trying to hammer it out would have distorted the steel (basically stretched it).
Anyway, I agree with your analysis!
 
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Old Mar 9, 2016 | 04:27 PM
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Got the fender dent PDR'd on my F150 - Cost me $275 and I can't tell it was there.

My PDR guy told me if I wasn't happy with the repair he wouldn't charge me a dime.

I'm sure I could have gotten it done cheaper but at the end of the day a) I didn't pay for it and b) he's done lots of work for me in the past and I know he does good work.
 
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Good! Glad they got it fixed to your satisfaction. And, I'm glad to know it can be fixed that well.
 
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