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Old Feb 25, 2016 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by dn29626
Using your link, look at picture #2 in your first post.
Only the large cable from the battery is to touch and connect to the large top lug with nut.
Only the small wire is to touch and connect to the small lug to the left and slightly lower lug. It usually has a small 7 or 8 mm nut.
Side note, why buy a remanufactured starter when a new starter (35154) was available at a lower price ($169.99 plus $10 core = $179.99)?
If you can get it back, have the original rebuilt for next time...
Well Oreilly shipped the core to whatever nether region they consign parts to. I had no idea about replacing that solenoid on it or I would have done that.

Where can I get a new decent starter then? I'm not having a lot of luck with shimming that top post to keep the top lug from sitting on the bottom post. Can't seem to find a bolt that will fit for some reason. I've spent about 5 bucks at ace in brass bolts and they all lock on the threads for some reason and won't go down to the bottom where I want them. Even the regular non locking hex bolts do that. So I'm about to get irate and demand my money back which will give me the option of finding a better starter. Am I still going to have this weird lug problem? Do superior starters offer more space between the top and bottom posts?

As for getting this new starter cable to deal with my lug situation is that the way to go? I don't want to redo the entire wiring harness because I paid a mechanic to do that two years ago and now I'm finding out his work isn't right apparently. Par for the course and why I'm here as a matter of fact.
 
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Old Feb 25, 2016 | 03:05 PM
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I think I might have to switch to a three bolt.

Duralast Gold/Starter DLG5154 - Read 5 Reviews on Duralast Gold #DLG5154

The top post seems to be longer.
 
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Old Feb 25, 2016 | 03:36 PM
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I think I might have to switch to a three bolt.

Duralast Gold/Starter DLG5154 - Read 5 Reviews on Duralast Gold #DLG5154

The top post seems to be longer.
You need to junk that starter, and get an OEM part. After that, you may be able to get under the truck with an angle grinder and shave some metal off that battery cable stud. But if it was me, I would rip it all out and replace it with OEM, before you short something out, or start a fire. You are risking so many bad things happening by keeping that cable in there. If you hit a bump and it shorts out while you are driving down the freeway, or out in the sticks four wheeling, then what ... Watch it burn ???
 
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Old Feb 25, 2016 | 03:42 PM
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The easiest solution, IMO, would be to have a new, properly sized lug installed on the end of the cable. Maybe you can find someone at an auto electric shop who can do it without pulling the whole cable out, or you can find someone with the right crimping tool who would let you borrow it for a couple hours.
 
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Old Feb 25, 2016 | 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by BigRed1Ton
You need to junk that starter, and get an OEM part. After that, you may be able to get under the truck with an angle grinder and shave some metal off that battery cable stud. But if it was me, I would rip it all out and replace it with OEM, before you short something out, or start a fire. You are risking so many bad things happening by keeping that cable in there. If you hit a bump and it shorts out while you are driving down the freeway, or out in the sticks four wheeling, then what ... Watch it burn ???

How come there weren't any issues with the old starter? That lug has been on there for 3 years now without even a burp. It's only come up as a problem now that I need a new starter. That seems pretty strange to me.

Also the lug that I have is part of a replacement set that the mechanic would logically ordered for the vehicle. It isn't something he cobbled together on his bench or something. When I looked at replacement kits for my start cable they look pretty much like what is already there.

Even if the lug is a little bigger it's not like it is the size of a battery terminal or anything.
 
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Old Feb 25, 2016 | 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Pikachu
The easiest solution, IMO, would be to have a new, properly sized lug installed on the end of the cable. Maybe you can find someone at an auto electric shop who can do it without pulling the whole cable out, or you can find someone with the right crimping tool who would let you borrow it for a couple hours.
Well I'd have to get the truck to them which is impossible right now. I'm either gonna have to stick with the lug or replace it. I would rather stick with it and find a starter/shim situation that is safe and reliable.
 
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Old Feb 25, 2016 | 04:21 PM
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Well I'd have to get the truck to them which is impossible right now. I'm either gonna have to stick with the lug or replace it. I would rather stick with it and find a starter/shim situation that is safe and reliable.
That seems like the best solution to you ?
 
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Old Feb 25, 2016 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by entropyjones
Three bolt and two bolt starters are interchangeable on our trucks. Part number 35154 that I recommended is a three bolt. My truck came with a two bolt. Several of us FTE guys have the 35154 on our trucks now.
Your truck and mine are the same.
Disconnect your batteries. With the starter laying on the ground under the truck, are you able to connect the large cable to the starter? What kind of clearance does the cable end have to the starter?
Using an angle grinder to shave excess material from the cable end might be your answer.
 
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Old Feb 25, 2016 | 04:55 PM
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If you're going to swap starters, you may as well go with a Denso 4kw unit. You'd love the way it cranks after that.
 
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Old Feb 25, 2016 | 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by dn29626
Three bolt and two bolt starters are interchangeable on our trucks. Part number 35154 that I recommended is a three bolt. My truck came with a two bolt. Several of us FTE guys have the 35154 on our trucks now.
Your truck and mine are the same.
Disconnect your batteries. With the starter laying on the ground under the truck, are you able to connect the large cable to the starter? What kind of clearance does the cable end have to the starter?
Using an angle grinder to shave excess material from the cable end might be your answer.

Where would I get the extra bolt? Does it come with the starter? Where did you get yours?
 
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Old Feb 25, 2016 | 05:08 PM
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If you're going to swap starters, you may as well go with a Denso 4kw unit. You'd love the way it cranks after that.
Is that the one with the side mounted post?
 
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Old Feb 25, 2016 | 05:37 PM
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Yes, that sounds like the one
 
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Old Feb 25, 2016 | 05:43 PM
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I believe this is the starter Pikachu is referencing.

Amazon.com: New Denso Starter 228000-8420 7.3L F4TZ11002A M8T50071 17802: Automotive Amazon.com: New Denso Starter 228000-8420 7.3L F4TZ11002A M8T50071 17802: Automotive


EDIT: Well, based on the customer reviews it appears to be a knockoff Denso starter. Not really sure how they use the same name though, but the real Denso is upwards of $400 based on the customer reviews.
 
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Old Feb 25, 2016 | 07:10 PM
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I would have to agree with Pikachu for a true Denso. The one Sous mentions at Amazon is most likely a Denso knockoff for that price. A true Denso from either Japan or Taiwan would cost between $300 to $400 but is well worth eliminating your headaches. I think I have some pics of my Denso in one of my albums.
 
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Old Feb 25, 2016 | 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by dn29626
Three bolt and two bolt starters are interchangeable on our trucks. Part number 35154 that I recommended is a three bolt. My truck came with a two bolt. Several of us FTE guys have the 35154 on our trucks now.
Your truck and mine are the same.
Disconnect your batteries. With the starter laying on the ground under the truck, are you able to connect the large cable to the starter? What kind of clearance does the cable end have to the starter?
Using an angle grinder to shave excess material from the cable end might be your answer.
That starter # 35154, is that the starter for the 6.0L ? I know some guys prefer that one over the stock part for the 7.3L. Is this one a high-torque unit, is that why you changed over ? My starter is almost ready to be changed. It's really old ... Over ten years I think.
 
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