E4OD using stand alone diesel TECA
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E4OD using stand alone diesel TECA
A small refresher on my ride. 77 F250 SC 2wd 400/c6. I use this as my camper puller and as with most 400, I want more power. I have considered many options for a new power plant and have finally decided on a 460 for several reasons. Mainly is availability and price. I am also starting to see signs of my tranny failing.
Ideally I will find a donor truck from the early 90's with 460 and E4OD that I can just pull with most all the parts I need. But if i end up piecing things together then I need a controller for the trans. My research has brought up the fact that in 90-91 diesel trucks there was an E4OD. Since these were IDIs and had no electronics or computer controls on the engine, there was a stand alone tranny controller. Is there any reason why I would not be able to use this for a carbed 460 and a E4OD? I can't seem to find much info on it, but from the universal wiring schematic from my haines manual, it looks as if the only thing needed from the vehicle is a vss signal and tach signal.
Also, I have found several donor trucks, but all of them have been 4wd. I read in a post about putting a driveline brake on the 4wd tranny in place of the TC. Again, can't find much info, but it looks as if these came on F and E 450's and up. Do these have the same bolt pattern as the TC?
Would there be any problem with using a 460 and E4OD from a van? can I use Motor mounts from the van?
For those of you who are going to say " just rebuild the C6" I figure if I am changing motors and need a tranny then I might as well go with an overdrive, cause , well i can.
Ideally I will find a donor truck from the early 90's with 460 and E4OD that I can just pull with most all the parts I need. But if i end up piecing things together then I need a controller for the trans. My research has brought up the fact that in 90-91 diesel trucks there was an E4OD. Since these were IDIs and had no electronics or computer controls on the engine, there was a stand alone tranny controller. Is there any reason why I would not be able to use this for a carbed 460 and a E4OD? I can't seem to find much info on it, but from the universal wiring schematic from my haines manual, it looks as if the only thing needed from the vehicle is a vss signal and tach signal.
Also, I have found several donor trucks, but all of them have been 4wd. I read in a post about putting a driveline brake on the 4wd tranny in place of the TC. Again, can't find much info, but it looks as if these came on F and E 450's and up. Do these have the same bolt pattern as the TC?
Would there be any problem with using a 460 and E4OD from a van? can I use Motor mounts from the van?
For those of you who are going to say " just rebuild the C6" I figure if I am changing motors and need a tranny then I might as well go with an overdrive, cause , well i can.
#2
You'll also need a throttle position signal if you want the trans to shift.
Also, I have found several donor trucks, but all of them have been 4wd. I read in a post about putting a driveline brake on the 4wd tranny in place of the TC. Again, can't find much info, but it looks as if these came on F and E 450's and up. Do these have the same bolt pattern as the TC?
No, there would not.
#3
Thank you Mark. You answered all my questions. Well, at this stage anyway. I agree with you on the Haynes manual, but after searching online for an hour or 2 not finding anything, it at least worked for a reference. When I get that far I will find an actually wiring schematic for the year.
I knew when I wrote that about vss and tach I was forgetting something. Throttle position is what it was. I can get a kit for a carb from the aftermarket for that pretty cheap. I can actually buy everything aftermarket, but I am frugal and can probably get a TECA from a diesel for less than $100, where an aftermarket is $600.
I don't suppose you know the years that driveline brakes were used on an E4OD tranny?
Thanks again for the info.
I knew when I wrote that about vss and tach I was forgetting something. Throttle position is what it was. I can get a kit for a carb from the aftermarket for that pretty cheap. I can actually buy everything aftermarket, but I am frugal and can probably get a TECA from a diesel for less than $100, where an aftermarket is $600.
I don't suppose you know the years that driveline brakes were used on an E4OD tranny?
Thanks again for the info.
#4
Better diagrams are available from Service Manuals, Owner Manuals, Wiring Diagrams, Service Bulletins - Helm Incorporated. Quite often CDs of the Ford service manuals are on Ebay. They have correct wiring diagrams.
No, I do not.
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