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Old Jan 30, 2016 | 06:11 PM
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Auxiliary battery options

I'm interested in installing an auxiliary battery in our Excursion. I've searched the forums here and it looks like there are a few options ranging from clean, functional and expensive to cheap and simple.

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Is there a cheaper option? If not I may try to make the latter.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2016 | 07:09 PM
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Since you drive a gasser you would by default have one extra space under the hood for a battery.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2016 | 08:54 PM
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Where are they in a psd? What's in there for a charging isolator
 
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Old Jan 30, 2016 | 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by HiZ
Where are they in a psd? What's in there for a charging isolator
Behind each headlight. Quite literally, it's a bitch changing the headlight bulbs.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2016 | 10:22 PM
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I personally would go with the E350 Frame mounted box to avoid taking up more space in the Engine bay.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2016 | 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by X-Hibition
Since you drive a gasser you would by default have one extra space under the hood for a battery.


Yes and no. The "Carbon Charger" is where the diesel battery goes. It costs money to add a battery in that location.

Look at the pics in post -#1
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...-a-v-10-x.html
 
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Old Jan 31, 2016 | 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Joshua Sirchuk
Is there a cheaper option? If not I may try to make the latter.
Find a 7.3 truck in a junk yard and harvest the parts.
Looks like about $20 worth of stuff from a pick-n-pull
 
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Old Jan 31, 2016 | 12:41 PM
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We used to install these at the shop I worked at (as an upfitter). All we did was ground the second battery to the frame, and put in a LARGE solenoid to separate the power between the batteries when the ignition was off. It was stupid simple, and it works. If I recall correctly, that was the way our engineers (who worked with ford's engineers) recommended it done.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2016 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by HiZ
What's in there for a charging isolator

No isolation in the diesels. They just sit in parallel. Upside is that it is a simple arrangement. Downside is that if one goes bad the second usually soon follows unless you catch it fast enough.


Why do you want the second battery? There can be different designs for the hookup depending on whether you want to just run accessories off the secondary when the engine is off versus wanting something to start the vehicle if the first battery is completely dead.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2016 | 01:44 PM
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As far as my suggestion was concerned it was only to address the additional battery in a factory location, easy squeezie. I was not even hinting at the isolation part of the installation, which is also not that difficult.
 
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Old Feb 1, 2016 | 12:25 AM
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As far as my suggestion was concerned it was only to address the additional battery in a factory location, easy squeezie. I was not even hinting at the isolation part of the installation, which is also not that difficult.
I was asking on isolation of circuits in factory psd set up
 
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Old Feb 1, 2016 | 09:17 AM
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One reason I'm leaning toward the solenoid is that I should be able to replace it easily and inexpensively.

Battery isolators seem to be complex and expensive. Knowing what battery to charge and when must take extra parts. With a solenoid I would just jump the solenoid like starting an old pickup right?

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Find a 7.3 truck in a junk yard and harvest the parts.
Looks like about $20 worth of stuff from a pick-n-pull
That was one idea I had, and probably the most frugal. I think I'd still have to move the carbon canister. Or delete it?

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Why do you want the second battery? There can be different designs for the hookup depending on whether you want to just run accessories off the secondary when the engine is off versus wanting something to start the vehicle if the first battery is completely dead.
I want to have my cake and eat it too. I'm hoping for a frugal solution to have auxiliary power that doubles as a "Jump Start" battery.

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All we did was ground the second battery to the frame, and put in a LARGE solenoid to separate the power between the batteries when the ignition was off.
Do you happen to recall what amp rating you needed? I think the V10 needs 700+ amps to start, but it wouldn't need that because the batteries would equalize?
 
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just move the carbon canister to the location that kit you linked to put it. All the bracket making material and fasteners you could ever need will be right at pick n pull when you go get the 7.3 parts. Plenty of ford vehicles with those starting solinoids if you want an isolator.
 
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Old Feb 1, 2016 | 12:54 PM
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Ah. Frugal. Simplest solution is to just wire a new battery in parallel with the old one. When one battery starts to go you can at least get the truck started to make it home. If you want to get fancier then add a relay so that the battery is only connected when the engine is running. Don't bother with a heavy duty solenoid and wiring. Just use your jumper cables in an emergency.
 
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Old Feb 1, 2016 | 10:22 PM
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I've had this solenoid in my dual battery setup for about five years now, Trombetta 114-1211-020 DC Contactor
I have it wired to a switch on my dash so I can turn it on/off as needed.
 
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