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Old Nov 13, 2018 | 06:48 AM
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It's not the fluid, it's not wind chill, it's the design.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2018 | 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by PupnDuck
First, wind chill does NOT lower the temperature. A popular misconception. Wind chill is a measure of how fast an object that is at a temperature above the current ambient temperature will cool down to ambient. If the temperature is 20 degrees and the wind chill is -20 degrees, objects will still be no colder than 20 degrees. They'll just get there faster if they were warm to start with or if, like your nose and ears, they can't supply enough heat to remain above freezing.

As to windshield washers - the inexpensive washer fluids are primarily alcohol based. The alcohol in the washer nozzles evaporates leaving water and pretty blue dye which then freezes into a plug in the nozzle. Use one of the washer fluids like Prestone and others make that rely mainly on ethylene glycol or propylene glycol. They don't evaporate as readily. I switched years ago for the same reason and haven't had a freeze up problem since.
That's all good advice, but my F150 was freezing up with the "good stuff", and it wasn't even very cold outside. No problems since the TSB was performed. There was a design issue, period.

 
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Old Nov 28, 2018 | 06:54 AM
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Mark me up as one more solved with drilling out the check valve. It's been freezing up on me when the temps get below 30*. Pulled the valve drilled it out, sprayed it and let it sit all night in about 25* and it worker just fine this morning
 
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Old Nov 28, 2018 | 09:15 AM
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Does anyone have the TSB number or information on what they do?
 
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Old Nov 28, 2018 | 09:48 AM
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Where is the valve?

Apparently going to have to do mine- it's mid 20's and my washers worked yesterday, then stopped. Ugh
 
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Old Nov 28, 2018 | 11:35 AM
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Pop the hood, go to the passenger side of the cowl, you will see 3 clips holding the front of the cowl down, pop those three clips and most of the rest of the cowl will be able to be popped up. You will see the washer fluid line running into the cowl on your extreme left, follow that line until you hit a tiny check valve. Pull it out run a drill bit through it, pop it back in and your good. Took a whole 10 mins.
 
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Old Nov 28, 2018 | 01:55 PM
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What size bit, I thought I saw somewhere 1/16"?
 
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Old Nov 28, 2018 | 02:02 PM
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I don't even know what size I used, I just grabbed one that was a little smaller that the tube sticking out of each side of the check valve.
 
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Old Nov 28, 2018 | 03:06 PM
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Just jumped in my truck after it sat all day in 27*, and the washer fluid worked fine.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2018 | 08:29 AM
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Yesterday when I got home I tried the washers and they worked...and it hadn't warmed up. Weird.
 
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Old Dec 19, 2019 | 07:19 AM
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Well I've had trouble since last year with the windshield washer not spraying when temps went below 30f. Thanks to all and their suggestions other than those saying the fluid was bad . I went to the dealership to pick up a new check valve as I am concerned that the timing of the washer pump and the wiper would cause the wiper to go over a dry salty sandy windshield if the tubes are filled without the check valve. Can't buy just the check valve, had to order the full assembly, only about $15.
It was about 28f on my normal 1 hour commute yesterday and hit a nasty snow squall and you guessed it, no washer. Luckily, I have a boxed assortment of vacuum connectors (because of a vacuum, 4wd, actuator issue I am having ) and replaced the check valve with a connector and it works perfectly now.
 
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Old Dec 19, 2019 | 07:37 AM
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25f in sunny South Texas this morning. Went to spray some fluid on my frosty windshield, and only the driver side worked, then nothing.

Last time I put fluid in, I just used the cheap Walmart brand. Before that, I used Prestone or RainX and never had any issues. It doesn’t get below freezing much here, so it isn’t that big of a deal.
 
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Old Dec 19, 2019 | 07:00 PM
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I was in MN this time last year and the washers froze up with good fluid in the tank. When I left EGF nothing thawed out until I was 1/2 hour out of Louisville, KY. I got home ordered up a thermo controller, washer fluid heater and heated nozzles. A little wire, a 40A relay, fuse block, some multiple pin connectors and unfortunately a capacitor to get rid of the PWM noise from the fluid heater that emanated out of the stereo and no more problems. Is this overkill? Nope. It has not happened since and that heater fluid really does a great job of clearing the windshield with out having to scrape. Also, think about the Ford fix of drilling out the check valve. The check valve is placed as close to the nozzles as possible to prevent runback and the delay in the fluid hitting the windshield that occurs from the run back. When you drill it out it is no longer a check valve.
 
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Old Dec 20, 2019 | 10:25 AM
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So why did this suddenly become a problem? I had windshield washers in my 1964 Oldsmobile that never froze in Minnesota; even with pretty cold temps.
 
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Old Dec 20, 2019 | 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by GlueGuy
So why did this suddenly become a problem? I had windshield washers in my 1964 Oldsmobile that never froze in Minnesota; even with pretty cold temps.
When they started making the pumps smaller (cheaper) and putting in a check valve. Plus changing the windshield solutions to be more environmentally friendly.
 
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