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Old Dec 26, 2015 | 10:48 AM
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I have not posted here much so if I'm doing this wrong delete this I was wondering on my 1992 idi and it fell and broke the power steering bracket . any one have one for sale or trade
 
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Old Dec 27, 2015 | 01:27 PM
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This would more fit in the parts wanted sticky at the top of this forum, but thats ok.
I'm assuming this would need to be a serpentine setup? I have a spare bracket off my '88 but its V-belts so I'd assume its different. If someone else can confirm it would work, we can figure something out.
 
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Old Dec 27, 2015 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by tecgod13
This would more fit in the parts wanted sticky at the top of this forum, but thats ok.
I'm assuming this would need to be a serpentine setup? I have a spare bracket off my '88 but its V-belts so I'd assume its different. If someone else can confirm it would work, we can figure something out.
OK thanks I'll look for the sticky thing. I'm having problems finding this bracket
 
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Old Dec 27, 2015 | 02:06 PM
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...... I was wondering on my 1992 idi and it fell and broke the power steering bracket . any one have one for sale or trade
I just bought one for my 1987 6.9L at a wrecking yard and was surprised to find that a lot of the gas engine trucks (some gas V8 engines) use the same bracket probably going back into the 1970s, so there were lots of them at the wrecking yard. I think I paid $15.00 for it - (might have been $20). I'm not certain that your 1992 7.3L has the same power steering bracket as my 1987 6.9L but I am going to assume that it does.

Here's a photo of my broken one for you to compare- the ear is broke off on the right upper corner.

This photo is taken from the front- the pump mounts behind it.



I just saw tcgod13's post. I'm quite sure that the shaft on these Ford CII P/S pumps (the ones with the plastic reservoir) are the same for either the V belt pulley or the serpentine belt pulley but I'll check to make sure in a few minutes. The Saginaw P/S pump has a metal reservoir shaped like a ham can. - It's an older style and I think the brackets may be different for those.
 
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Old Dec 27, 2015 | 02:39 PM
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I just bought one for my 1987 6.9L at a wrecking yard and was surprised to find that a lot of the gas engine trucks (some gas V8 engines) use the same bracket probably going back into the 1970s, so there were lots of them at the wrecking yard. I think I paid $15.00 for it - (might have been $20). I'm not certain that your 1992 7.3L has the same power steering bracket as my 1987 6.9L but I am going to assume that it does.

Here's a photo of my broken one for you to compare- the ear is broke off on the right upper corner.

This photo is taken from the front- the pump mounts behind it.



I just saw tcgod13's post. I'm quite sure that the shaft on these Ford CII P/S pumps (the ones with the plastic reservoir) are the same for either the V belt pulley or the serpentine belt pulley but I'll check to make sure in a few minutes. The Saginaw P/S pump has a metal reservoir shaped like a ham can. - It's an older style and I think the brackets may be different for those.
I have the plastic reservoir but I think my bracket is different I'll look next time I get to the shop thanks
 
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Old Dec 27, 2015 | 03:00 PM
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1992 was the first year of the serpentine system.
from what ive read it can have either or.

if it is a serpentine system, you will need to make sure it has either the open or closed spring tensioner.
they are different brackets.
but either or will work if you purchase the correct tensenior



 
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Old Dec 27, 2015 | 03:16 PM
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1992 was the first year of the serpentine system.
from what ive read it can have either or.

if it is a serpentine system, you will need to make sure it has either the open or closed spring tensioner.
they are different brackets.
but either or will work if you purchase the correct tensenior



Will the bracket from a van work
 
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The power steering pumps shown for the 1992 7.3L idi at Rock Auto Parts appear to be the same CII pumps as earlier models but the Ford part numbers for that year begin with the letter 'E' in 89 or 88 and back they begin with the letter 'F'. I don't know why unless it is for a different pulley (serpentine vs v-belt) or pressure hose fittings or something.

I seriously doubt if this is going to matter with the mounting bracket. If it is the Ford CII pump then the bracket should be the same. By the way, I saw that the E-series van parts were showing the Saginaw P/S pump, aka: the 'can-o-ham' style with metal reservoir.

If you choose to go to a wrecking yard take your old broken bracket with you. I think I saw a few F150's with the same cast aluminum bracket and if that is the one you need you should be able to find a few in any wrecking yard with a selection of ford pick-ups.

You will need a power steering pulley removal/installation tool to get the pulley off of the pump at the wrecking yard because I don't think you can get a wrench on the lower pump bolt, even with the whole assembly out of the truck without removing the pulley first. You'll have to pull the pulley on your pump too, then bolt your pump to the new bracket then press the pulley back on with that tool kit. (there are directions in the kit)

If you don't have a power steering pump (& alternator) pulley removal/installation kit I think you can rent one from Autozone or the Schucks auto parts chain - just a deposit which you get back in full.

I remember the torque specifications for those bolts (pump to bracket) which is
49-57 foot-lbs. I torqued them to 54 foot-lbs. I used a BIG vice and a friend to hold the pump while I torqued the bolts. The vice was not clamped down on the assembly, it just helped keep it in position - my friend holding the pump while I torqued the bolts.

I installed the bracket into the truck with the pump and pulley already mounted to it. Your other option is to install the bracket in the truck FIRST, then bolt the pump on- that way the bolts are easy to torque and then you have to press the pulley on after it is in the truck.
That's the way I'll do it next time because trying to hold that pump and bracket in place on a bench to torque the bolts is not easy.

I hope this all helps. I didn't sleep at all last night and it's 1:30 PM here so my ability to concentrate is just about gone.
 
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Old Dec 27, 2015 | 03:50 PM
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have no clue about E series.
the only van i have ever owned is a PSD

the pullers are pretty cheap
http://www.ebay.com/itm/251516312357?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
 
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The power steering pumps shown for the 1992 7.3L idi at Rock Auto Parts appear to be the same CII pumps as earlier models but the Ford part numbers for that year begin with the letter 'E' in 89 or 88 and back they begin with the letter 'F'. I don't know why unless it is for a different pulley (serpentine vs v-belt) or pressure hose fittings or something.

I seriously doubt if this is going to matter with the mounting bracket. If it is the Ford CII pump then the bracket should be the same. By the way, I saw that the E-series van parts were showing the Saginaw P/S pump, aka: the 'can-o-ham' style with metal reservoir.

If you choose to go to a wrecking yard take your old broken bracket with you. I think I saw a few F150's with the same cast aluminum bracket and if that is the one you need you should be able to find a few in any wrecking yard with a selection of ford pick-ups.

You will need a power steering pulley removal/installation tool to get the pulley off of the pump at the wrecking yard because I don't think you can get a wrench on the lower pump bolt, even with the whole assembly out of the truck without removing the pulley first. You'll have to pull the pulley on your pump too, then bolt your pump to the new bracket then press the pulley back on with that tool kit. (there are directions in the kit)

If you don't have a power steering pump (& alternator) pulley removal/installation kit I think you can rent one from Autozone or the Schucks auto parts chain - just a deposit which you get back in full.

I remember the torque specifications for those bolts (pump to bracket) which is
49-57 foot-lbs. I torqued them to 54 foot-lbs. I used a BIG vice and a friend to hold the pump while I torqued the bolts. The vice was not clamped down on the assembly, it just helped keep it in position - my friend holding the pump while I torqued the bolts.

I installed the bracket into the truck with the pump and pulley already mounted to it. Your other option is to install the bracket in the truck FIRST, then bolt the pump on- that way the bolts are easy to torque and then you have to press the pulley on after it is in the truck.
That's the way I'll do it next time because trying to hold that pump and bracket in place on a bench to torque the bolts is not easy.

I hope this all helps. I didn't sleep at all last night and it's 1:30 PM here so my ability to concentrate is just about gone.
Thanks that helps a bunch when it fell it crushed the power steering pump and pully so me need to replace that also but I can get that from rocauto
 
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