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Old Dec 25, 2015 | 11:34 AM
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Another ttb level question...

I know this question has been gone over and over again. But i can seem to find exactly what im asking for. Theres plenty of questions about leveling a ttb with coils but not much with leafs. Im wondering whats the best way to level a leaf sprung ttb. I want to keep the original ride comfort, ie no add a leaf. So what else is out there to add 1.5". Thanks
 
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Old Dec 25, 2015 | 01:48 PM
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You can have the springs re-arched, or get replacement leaves with the same stiffness but more arch. Without being any stiffer the ride won't change even though they sit higher. Downside is that lifting a TTB (leaf or coil) changes the steering geometry. You may or may not be able to get your camber back into spec after doing that.

You can also add drop brackets to the traction beam pivots. That, along with lift springs, will increase the ride height without screwing up the camber. But I don't think they offer drop brackets for less than about 3" of lift.

If you do go for 3" of lift they might tell you that you don't need a drop pitman arm. If they do, don't believe them. You'll get noticeable bump steer and your toe-in will change quite a bit as your new springs settle in, requiring frequent adjustment for the first few months to a year. A drop pitman arm is a lot more forgiving.

Or if you want about 3" of lift you can increase your ride quality by going to a solid axle. Much better than a leaf sprung TTB all around, but not necessarily a cheap fix.
 
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Old Dec 25, 2015 | 05:11 PM
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You may be able to gain some by replacing the bushings at the ends of the springs.
 
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Old Dec 25, 2015 | 07:08 PM
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You may be able to gain some by replacing the bushings at the ends of the springs.
Ok i might try that, thank u
 
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Old Dec 25, 2015 | 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Nothing Special
You can have the springs re-arched, or get replacement leaves with the same stiffness but more arch. Without being any stiffer the ride won't change even though they sit higher. Downside is that lifting a TTB (leaf or coil) changes the steering geometry. You may or may not be able to get your camber back into spec after doing that.

You can also add drop brackets to the traction beam pivots. That, along with lift springs, will increase the ride height without screwing up the camber. But I don't think they offer drop brackets for less than about 3" of lift.

If you do go for 3" of lift they might tell you that you don't need a drop pitman arm. If they do, don't believe them. You'll get noticeable bump steer and your toe-in will change quite a bit as your new springs settle in, requiring frequent adjustment for the first few months to a year. A drop pitman arm is a lot more forgiving.

Or if you want about 3" of lift you can increase your ride quality by going to a solid axle. Much better than a leaf sprung TTB all around, but not necessarily a cheap fix.
Ya dont really want to lift the back end anymore, but worse case senerio, i might. Thanks for your response
 
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Old Dec 25, 2015 | 09:58 PM
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Ya dont really want to lift the back end anymore, but worse case senerio, i might. Thanks for your response
I don't blame you. Cost would keep me away from doing a solid axle swap on my truck at this point anyway. But even if money wasn't a factor I don't want any higher ride height than a stock F-250.

But that does make me think. Neither of my F-250s had much rake to them. Maybe your springs have sagged? Could be that new stock springs will give you the height you want and actually be better for alignment. Just a thought.
 
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Old Dec 25, 2015 | 10:38 PM
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I don't blame you. Cost would keep me away from doing a solid axle swap on my truck at this point anyway. But even if money wasn't a factor I don't want any higher ride height than a stock F-250.

But that does make me think. Neither of my F-250s had much rake to them. Maybe your springs have sagged? Could be that new stock springs will give you the height you want and actually be better for alignment. Just a thought.
Well the tire is slightly leaning in at the top. So new stock springs might help. I do know, stock, the nose of the truck does point down. And a dana 60 isnt out of my budget but just finding one in decent shape has been a PTA
 
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Old Dec 25, 2015 | 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by justcruzin125
Well the tire is slightly leaning in at the top.
CantGetR1ght just put a skyjacker leveling kit on his, his thread is in the pre-powerstroke forum titled "Where to start 94 IDIT." He said it improved his ride and made it sit level. The kit is only about $150, don't know what the camber bushings run but that is the route I'll take on my ttb.
 
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Old Dec 26, 2015 | 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by PlumCrazy7
CantGetR1ght just put a skyjacker leveling kit on his, his thread is in the pre-powerstroke forum titled "Where to start 94 IDIT." He said it improved his ride and made it sit level. The kit is only about $150, don't know what the camber bushings run but that is the route I'll take on my ttb.
Can u post the link, cant seem to find it. Thanks
 
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Old Dec 26, 2015 | 05:17 AM
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77 04 Ford F250 Super Duty 2WD 4WD Add A Leaf Spring 1 5 2" Front Leveling Kit | eBay

here is one on ebay
 
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Old Dec 27, 2015 | 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Nothing Special

But that does make me think. Neither of my F-250s had much rake to them. Maybe your springs have sagged? Could be that new stock springs will give you the height you want and actually be better for alignment. Just a thought.
^This!
My 93 F250 sat pretty level (185k miles) until I swapped in new, stock replacement, rear leafs and shocks. Then bam! Instant rake! I swapped out the fronts for stock replacements and she sat level again, and about 1.5" higher. ...I should say, the truck spent almost all its life doing heavy towing.
 
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Old Dec 27, 2015 | 09:32 PM
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just get the pro comp 2" leveling springs from summit, it should put your truck perfectly level. Then get the new adjustable bushing set form pro comp, i think they are like 60 dollars and go get it aligned. If you need to raise the back without compromising ride quality just use blocks.
 
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Old Dec 27, 2015 | 11:13 PM
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Here are skyjacker's http://4wheelonline.com/Skyjacker_1980-96_Ford_F-250_4WD_Suspension_Lift_Kits.201689.0
 
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