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Old 11-27-2015, 09:07 PM
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Gear HELP.... Need highway speed

Ok my 63 is stock.... I know nothing about gearing or read ends.... My truck runs smooth and the I-6 needs some love but only tops out at 55mph.... I will be taking an 8 hour trip in a few weeks... I need the truck to be able to do highway speeds 60+mph... I was told by a friend to change out the gearing and the motor should be able to push that truck along to those speeds.... Any help would be appropriated.
 

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Old 11-27-2015, 09:49 PM
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Welcome to FTE Post the data plate info on your truck particularly axle code. I believe you can replace what's called the "third member" in the differential and change the ratio. Not too expensive, but may be tough to get knocked out in a "few weeks".

Back up a second though, - determine whether your truck has been maintained over the last several decades to safely operate at those higher speeds. Tires, braking system, shocks, leaf springs, steering gear, king pins, tie rod ends, drag link, etc. Worn out components wear super fast once they get going.
 
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Old 11-28-2015, 04:50 AM
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SD31, A couple things you need to be aware of, your truck is running a 223 that has very small gonads, and was built in an era of average truck speed being about 45 mph. Trucks were not driven then like today nor were there 70 mph roads to drive them on. As noted by Ted, is it safe to run it at higher speeds.

One more thing, I am not aware of limiters, are you saying if you keep mashing the gas it will not go faster or just sounds like it is topped out?


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Old 12-12-2015, 10:31 AM
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Thanks for the welcoming. Today will be the first time i see the truck in person and drive it as i purchased it through pictures and phone conversations. From what i have seen and my father picking the truck up, it is a solid truck. It's not like i am dropping in a new V-8... do you really think adding 10-20 MPH will harm the components you mentioned? I just want to get the truck to go little faster so a road trip doesn't take quit as long as it will. Also want to keep up with the flow little better and not become a slow moving hazard. Thanks again and i really really hope to have more answers and "WILL' Have more questions once i take her for a spin.
 
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Old 12-12-2015, 10:35 AM
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JO WILKER..... i just posted a reply to TESTER9 staying i haven't driven the truck yet... but the owner said it "tops out" at 55mph... i will get to drive the truck for the first time today as i am coming home for Military leave for a couple weeks. I will be able to talked more and receive all of your guys advice better once i get to know her little more... just didn't want you all to think i was a one time poster or ignoring your advice.... Thanks again Talk soon.
 
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get under your truck and ;look at the rearend. Is there a cover on the back of the housing. If not you should have a 9" rearend which would make it easyer to change gears.
 
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Another thing to check is the vacuum advance on the distributor. If it doesn't work properly you get no advance as there is no mechanical advance. A 223 will be a dog without it.. If that is ok, then you need to find out what rear gears you have..
 
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Take it out on the road and hold it on the floor. As long as it is in hi-gear you should not harm it even if it is screaming.

I am saying that engine is a woose at best, it aint gonna go much faster as is. Once your tour is up you might want to think about replacing the drive train but for now just drive it.


Thank you for your service. sir


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Who says it isn't a 262?
 
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I don't know what ratio is in the rear end in your truck (assuming it is a 9-inch, which it probably is) but, good chance it has 3.50, 3.70 or 3.89:1 gears or, something along those lines. ....could even be 4.11.

A low gear ratio is high, numerically. A high ratio is low, numerically. Example, 3.00:1 rear end gears would be a high ratio. 4.11:1 gears would be a low ratio.

The axle code will be listed on your warranty plate. I believe (possibly) on '66 - earlier trucks, the tag was on the inside of the glove box door. If not, the plate should be on the rear edge of the drivers side door. The rear end SHOULD have a ratio tag attached to one of the (10) studs that holds the 3rd member to the 9-inch rear end housing. But, If someone has messed with the rear end, they may have left the tag off.

Going to a higher (lower, numerically) rear end ratio will drop the engine RPMs at highway speeds. However, going too high in ratio MAY kill the engine's performance if the gears cause the engine to operate under its power band (lug the engine). --the engine MAY struggle all the time to get up to speed or to try and maintain speed.
 
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Originally Posted by ultraranger
The axle code will be listed on your warranty plate. I believe (possibly) on '66 - earlier trucks, the tag was on the inside of the glove box door. If not, the plate should be on the rear edge of the drivers side door.
'63 and older on the glovebox, '64 and later on the door.
 
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Old 12-12-2015, 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by 1972RedNeck
'63 and older on the glovebox, '64 and later on the door.
Thanks for the information. I own a Bumpside ('69 F100) and I wasn't sure when the placement of the tag changed locations on the Slicks.

Years ago, I had pulled a 3.89 9-inch 3rd member from a Slick. I just remember that the warranty tag was on the inside of the glove box door (axle code 12).
 
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To answer an earlier question, there IS a big difference between 50ish and 70 mph. What I mean by that, while there's no way for us to know the overall condition of the truck, typically a '63 pickup truck was rode hard and put away wet. Springs and shocks, totally spent, kingpins loose, tie rod ends, drag link - brakes, drums worn or cracked, wheel cylinders trash, hoses original, master cylinder leaking, steering box worn out, empty. How about tires? When was the last time the wheel bearings were inspected and repacked with fresh grease? Jus' sayin'.
 
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Years ago when I worked at a company with an all Ford fleet, one of the mechanics who had worked for Ford long before that said that the maximum rpms of a stock 223 or 292 to be safe is about 3200 rpms.
 
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Years ago when I worked at a company with an all Ford fleet, one of the mechanics who had worked for Ford long before that said that the maximum rpms of a stock 223 or 292 to be safe is about 3200 rpms.
That's a load of bull. Max horsepower was rated at 4,000 or 4,200 so they will easily spin that fast.
 


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