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Old Nov 27, 2015 | 01:25 PM
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Which scanner /code reader /problem finder should I get?

I have three 7.3 psd, and two 6liter psd trucks, and am at the point where I need a code reader scanner thing to help me diagnose some issues.
My uncles truck isn't starting well, and the code someone told him was low something pressure... I figured it was the icp sensor, I unplugged it, and it still didn't start. I have no way to check hpop pressure and I need to.
If you plug the truck in for 4 hours, it will start and romp a lot, smoke a bunch and just not run well for 10 min. Once it's running, it will run well. Shut it off and it will start all day fine.
Truck has under 60k on it. It is always garaged. It sucks that it's not starting.

What do you guys reccommend for scanner. AE or is there something else. It's like 360 bucks.
 
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Old Nov 27, 2015 | 02:07 PM
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If you have an Android phone/tablet....it's hard to beat the Torque Pro app for what you're looking to do.

$5 for the app
$25 for Bluetooth wireless adapter to send OBD info to your android device.
 
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Old Nov 27, 2015 | 03:30 PM
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There are many options. I monitor with a ScanGauge for everyday stuff. DashBoss is good if you want to go a little deeper and I have a laptop with FORScan for more serious troubleshooting.

Try browsing through this post for some ideas on what's available and which way you may want to go.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...eral-info.html
 
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Old Nov 28, 2015 | 12:03 AM
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A cheap android tablet or a phone. A bt obd2 adapter and torque. So far im veru impressed. Reads more codes than either the sct tuner or my edge evo
 
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Old Nov 28, 2015 | 01:55 PM
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FORScan is good, and I like it - but you do tend to watch the gauges more than the road when its running...
 
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Old Nov 29, 2015 | 07:44 AM
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Do the phone apps display hpop pressure?
 
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Old Nov 29, 2015 | 07:57 AM
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Yes, some lable them with a different name and some require it to be added after you download the Ford specific PID's.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2015 | 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by UNTAMND
Do the phone apps display hpop pressure?
The fact that it is not starting cold points to a FICM problem, look in the tech folder at the top of this forum for instructions on how to test the FICM voltage with a digital volt meter, it needs to be above 45 at all times, from KOEO, cranking, idle and WOT. If it is below 45 at any time it needs to be repaired and the best place to have that done is www.FICMrepair.com
And as far as gauges go I like the Edge Insight CTS.


Here is the link for the FICM test procedure, https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/8...procedure.html
 
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Will a regular scanner like Actron with Ford Enhanced, display common parameters such as HPOP?
 
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Old Dec 9, 2015 | 10:32 PM
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Hey bud, definitely do what mustang_309 suggested & test the FICM. These beasts don't have the same problem cold start causes that we are used to with the 7.3L's. If it turnes out to be the FICM then be sure to test & check the alternator & batteries. FICM's just don't go out. Something caused it and low batts or a bad alt are common causes of FICM problems. You definitely don't want to spend $300-400 on a FICM just to blow it out again because of a bad alternator.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2015 | 11:19 PM
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Batteries are original..... It's garage kept and only driven in good weather, unless it's super terrible and then it comes out... Then gets a bath after.
I'm trying to locate another ficm. My buddy has a truck junkyard near him that may have one seeing as though they have like ten 6liter trucks. We will see.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2015 | 01:43 AM
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Originally Posted by mustang_309
The fact that it is not starting cold points to a FICM problem, look in the tech folder at the top of this forum for instructions on how to test the FICM voltage with a digital volt meter, it needs to be above 45 at all times, from KOEO, cranking, idle and WOT. If it is below 45 at any time it needs to be repaired and the best place to have that done is www.FICMrepair.com
And as far as gauges go I like the Edge Insight CTS.


Here is the link for the FICM test procedure, https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/8...procedure.html
Thanks for the recommendation!

Re: junkyard modules. I never cease to be amazed at the percentage of modules that we buy from junkyards that have issues (we have relationships with LOADS of yards across the US as not everyone is awesome about getting their cores back to us...). I mean, seriously, how did that FICM get to the junkyard anyway? Certainly the truck HAD been driving when it got smashed up, right? And yet, here we are...most (85% maybe?) junkyard units signal okay, but most fall on their face when asked to stand up to repeated maximum amperage draw conditions (a test all of our units have to pass before leaving the shop).

Of course, I'd love the opportunity to take care of you and so am biased and yes, the junkyard unit may well work for you, but it's just not the best option if for no other reason than you have no idea what revision of software the replacement module will have.

Good luck with whatever path you choose to take. If you want to talk through the options, both through us and what is available through alternate channels, we'd be happy to cover the details with you. Just give us a call at 515-897-4459.

We, too, like the Edge Insight line. The CTS2 came out earlier this year and is pretty awesome. It'll even beep at you when something bad is happening on something you aren't even monitoring at that time. How cool is that? INSIGHT CTS2

 
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Old Dec 10, 2015 | 01:49 AM
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BTW, we carry the AE tool that you asked about as well (AutoEnginuity Products).

Essentially, the AE tool will give you live data logging and tell you nearly all there is to know about the truck. You can do contribution tests with it, the works. The issue is that it isn't practical to have up all the time day to day. So...if you are looking for an amazing diag tool, go AE. If you are looking for something that can diag and double as a day to day monitor, the Edge Insight CTS2 is a solid choice.

Since we are thinking that it is the FICM in this case, though, you likely don't have to purchase anything if you already own a digital volt meter. Directions can be found at 17. Can I test my FICM to ensure that it is the culprit?.

Good luck!
 
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Old Dec 13, 2015 | 03:16 PM
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I am trying to get my uncle to test the ficm. He has an appointment at ford later this week that I really don't want him to go to with the truck.
He is worried about messing up the truck doing this work himself. I keep telling him that the $1000 saved is worth the risk.
 
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Old Dec 13, 2015 | 03:47 PM
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FWIF, on the OASIS report on my vehicle. The previous owner paid Ford - $725 for a FICM and $237 for the labor. Less than 1/2 if you test it yourself and send it in to be repaired.
 
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