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Old Oct 24, 2015 | 07:10 PM
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Jim....... As I said this van is new to me, oh I guess I bought it 9 months ago. When I first drove it home I figured it needed plugs and wires at 90,000 miles so I removed the cover and sure enough the van needed some care.......I will list the upgrades .
1.New wires
2.New Plugs.
3.New right side exhaust manifold gasket (leaking).
4.New Cap and Rotor.
5.********New Throttle position sensor.**********
6.Repair of the ECU. (This Week)
61/2.Updating pain to get to parts as you said 25 yrs. of wear updated.

So.....Last night I repaired my OBD 1 Code reader by repairing the ground circuit so I could read the codes without guessing the number of blinking lights. ........(Can't blame the ECU it was the OBD Reader). I have to guess the ECU is 100% and the rest of my repairs are due to bad sensors or wire fails.....and these are my codes.

1.41 HEGO not switching.
2.63 Throttle Position Senor out of ranger....................DANG !!!

I just replaced that TPS with one I ordered online and when I removed the throttle body to swap it out I was thinking this NEW part looks like a piece of China Junk and questioned at that time if I would have a problem with it.
The HEGOS I think I have two are not a problem(but can be!!) the TPS..........Well not a fun job but I guess I need to try to replace a new part with another. I will Win this war !!
I feel your pain! haha Here's my list before selling the van:
Fuel System: Fuel pump, tank selector valve, fuel injectors, fuel pressure regulator.
Suspension: brake linings, all 4 wheel cylinders, front wheel bearings, tie rods.
Heater/Air Conditioning: repaired vent doors, new hoses, charged R134a, fixed blower speeds.
Ignition System: new TFI module, plugs, wires, cap, rotor, coil, TPS sensor, IAC.
Engine: water pump, serpentine belt, thermostat, lower manifold, fan clutch, tachometer, o2 sensor.

Installed key-less entry, 1 rear view mirror camera, side door power lock switch, installed seat belts 3rd row.

It sounds like a lot but it was during the 16 months I owned it and it wasn't a daily driver so no rush, just fixed it as a hobby mostly. It should be good for the next owner for another 27 years.
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Old Oct 25, 2015 | 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by jimandnena
I feel your pain! haha Here's my list before selling the van:
Fuel System: Fuel pump, tank selector valve, fuel injectors, fuel pressure regulator.
Suspension: brake linings, all 4 wheel cylinders, front wheel bearings, tie rods.
Heater/Air Conditioning: repaired vent doors, new hoses, charged R134a, fixed blower speeds.
Ignition System: new TFI module, plugs, wires, cap, rotor, coil, TPS sensor, IAC.
Engine: water pump, serpentine belt, thermostat, lower manifold, fan clutch, tachometer, o2 sensor.

Installed key-less entry, 1 rear view mirror camera, side door power lock switch, installed seat belts 3rd row.

It sounds like a lot but it was during the 16 months I owned it and it wasn't a daily driver so no rush, just fixed it as a hobby mostly. It should be good for the next owner for another 27 years.
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Jim that list of repair you posted just shows you don't like to see a good machine left in disrepair.....I have the same sickness.......Even if it is to benefit the next guy.

This old van of mine is a conversion that is in mint shape so I would like to get the bugs out........So for the price I payed I can sink some time and cash to heal this old time capsule.
The plan this week is to do a voltage reference, TP signal test on the TPS to prove it's junk or replace the ECU. I hope it's the Throttle position sensor!

For the record I love a challenge !! I am sure this van has been limping along waiting for someone to take time and diag the problems. To this point I have about $75 to $100 dollars in parts I am not talking about time you see to remove that right side exhaust manifold was fun !! Oh the secondary air tubes the one broken exhaust stud removal..........thank you lord for time.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2015 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by vincentdsnt
Jim that list of repair you posted just shows you don't like to see a good machine left in disrepair.....I have the same sickness.......Even if it is to benefit the next guy.

This old van of mine is a conversion that is in mint shape so I would like to get the bugs out........So for the price I payed I can sink some time and cash to heal this old time capsule.
The plan this week is to do a voltage reference, TP signal test on the TPS to prove it's junk or replace the ECU. I hope it's the Throttle position sensor!

For the record I love a challenge !! I am sure this van has been limping along waiting for someone to take time and diag the problems. To this point I have about $75 to $100 dollars in parts I am not talking about time you see to remove that right side exhaust manifold was fun !! Oh the secondary air tubes the one broken exhaust stud removal..........thank you lord for time.
I have equal parts German and Scots/Irish. I want perfection but I would really just rather have a pint and think about it. haha

I can't let myself think about how much time I put in on it but like I said, it was just a hobby that happened to produce a sale-able vehicle. I do like returning stuff to service if there is a chance. So far I haven't found anything I couldn't fix.
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Old Oct 29, 2015 | 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by jimandnena
I have equal parts German and Scots/Irish. I want perfection but I would really just rather have a pint and think about it. haha

I can't let myself think about how much time I put in on it but like I said, it was just a hobby that happened to produce a sale-able vehicle. I do like returning stuff to service if there is a chance. So far I haven't found anything I couldn't fix.
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Jim.......I have the results of my(Chinese) TPS...........it's a new piece of junk !! So I ordered a new Dorman TPS I am told made in the U.S.A. not China.....So I will Install the new TPS adjust it to the proper Ohm values and reference volts before installing even If I have to slot the mounting holes to achieve the correct values. Then after that I will see if the ECU also needs to be replaced.............Hummmm......German, Scots/Irish same as the mother of my children, so my daughters are half German, Scots/Irish and half Italian.............God Bless their Hearts.

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Old Nov 1, 2015 | 08:00 PM
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Jim.......I have the results of my(Chinese) TPS...........it's a new piece of junk !! So I ordered a new Dorman TPS I am told made in the U.S.A. not China.....So I will Install the new TPS adjust it to the proper Ohm values and reference volts before installing even If I have to slot the mounting holes to achieve the correct values. Then after that I will see if the ECU also needs to be replaced.............Hummmm......German, Scots/Irish same as the mother of my children, so my daughters are half German, Scots/Irish and half Italian.............God Bless their Hearts.

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I got most of the parts I used from my nearby Oriellys, I try to avoid Made in China when I can. Dorman has never let me down on parts so that's probably a good one.

My sons are half Latino, my bride is from Panama, they are bilingual so conversations at our house are confusing to visitors. The grandkids are growing up bilingual as well so I'm hoping they will chose a 3rd language to learn in school. The direction the world is going currently, Chinese might be a good choice! LOL!
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Old Nov 2, 2015 | 08:13 AM
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Extra.....Extra !!!

Originally Posted by jimandnena
I got most of the parts I used from my nearby Oriellys, I try to avoid Made in China when I can. Dorman has never let me down on parts so that's probably a good one.

My sons are half Latino, my bride is from Panama, they are bilingual so conversations at our house are confusing to visitors. The grandkids are growing up bilingual as well so I'm hoping they will chose a 3rd language to learn in school. The direction the world is going currently, Chinese might be a good choice! LOL!
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Dorman's TPS sensor has been installed and my Van runs like a top !! I found several dead spots in the other (new) off brand TPS so that sealed the deal.........and for the record now I see the Dorman's are now made in China also .
Jim, My better half is multilingual and has served her well in the work place, I hope for your grand kid's and mine learn to speak other languages to grab that better position in the job market.
 
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Old Nov 3, 2015 | 06:51 AM
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Dorman's TPS sensor has been installed and my Van runs like a top !! I found several dead spots in the other (new) off brand TPS so that sealed the deal.........and for the record now I see the Dorman's are now made in China also .
Well Moog stuff is made in India----

As much as I hate to say it regarding "offshore parts" SOME of them retain the quality level even if to a slighly lesser degree of the formerly produced American made parts. Companies that establish and maintain a strict quality level seem to be as interested in retaining their good reputation AND avoid the unnecessary costs associated with warranty replacing junk.

Most countries producing stuff for American companies have huge capability to make top notch stuff---the bean counters here might be the biggest cause of us receiving junk across our parts counters.
 
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Old Nov 7, 2015 | 07:52 AM
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And more updates to do !!

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Well Moog stuff is made in India----

As much as I hate to say it regarding "offshore parts" SOME of them retain the quality level even if to a slighly lesser degree of the formerly produced American made parts. Companies that establish and maintain a strict quality level seem to be as interested in retaining their good reputation AND avoid the unnecessary costs associated with warranty replacing junk.

Most countries producing stuff for American companies have huge capability to make top notch stuff---the bean counters here might be the biggest cause of us receiving junk across our parts counters.
Hey JWA, I agree I just bought a part that was online and non branded so my bad this new Dorman is from china and works well..........Now I know when I worked in Dearborn for Ford most of the OEM parts we installed were from Mexico, I am sure it would be hard to fine parts still made in the U.S.A. from most of the old standard parts suppliers. So for now I am waiting delivery of a new/old stock F0UZ-2B373-B ABS System ABS Pump Modulator Hydraulic Valve to finish up my updates for now........ $96 in the Ford service Parts box delivered to my door I am happy about that !
 
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Old Nov 23, 2015 | 06:06 PM
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Update........installed the NEW - OEM Ford F0UZ-2B373-B ABS System ABS Pump Modulator Hydraulic Valve and zip boom bang! The code 4 is gone and all the lights on the dash are gone..........best part is the ABS barkes now work !
 
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Old Nov 24, 2015 | 06:29 AM
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Good news indeed! Quality parts always make things infinitely better!
 
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