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Old Sep 30, 2015 | 11:14 PM
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M5od replacement

I've got a Mazda 4wd transmission I have an aod c6 e4od np435 I need to swap it and refuse to buy another Mazda anybody have any idea if any of them would be a decently easy swap
 
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Old Oct 1, 2015 | 04:35 AM
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The E4OD will need a different PCM to control it where the others won't. I have seen several threads on trans swaps where people have ditched the crappy M5OD. I'd like to pitch mine in the trash and put in a ZF5. Maybe at some point in the future....
 
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Old Oct 1, 2015 | 08:51 AM
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I still cant believe so many people having issues with there mazda mine has 297,000 hard miles on it even towing alot hell my zf lost reverse at 186,000
 
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Old Oct 1, 2015 | 09:46 AM
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I still cant believe so many people having issues with there mazda mine has 297,000 hard miles on it even towing alot hell my zf lost reverse at 186,000
Agreed, you name it, I've done it and then some with the Mazda trans. I've neutral dropped it, bang shifted, missed gears, whooped some butt and hauled close to 1200 pounds of metal with this trans and other than the shift forks are giving me trouble now with shifting it's still Mint. What do you people do to these things? Do you load up a truck full of wood and then try and do a burnout with it? Because I just don't get how people break them. Not ragging on you by any means OP I'm just that curious.
 
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Old Oct 1, 2015 | 10:11 AM
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My issues are most likely due to the PO. It looks like someone has been in it before because of the silicone gooped around the tail housing. It leaks and shifts relatively poorly. Even after replacing the shifter bushings it has gotten sloppy again. I blame the PO because I found the leaf springs on both sides broken in half. Also I wish 1st gear was lower.
 
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Old Oct 1, 2015 | 12:23 PM
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Sounds like the PO has done a number and a half to this truck then. Do you know what they used it for prior to your purchase of the truck? Sounds to me like they gave this truck some serious crap then.
 
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Old Oct 1, 2015 | 01:29 PM
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To OP: I'm taking out an M5OD and putting in C-6 in my 89 F250 4X4 so I may have some measurements that will help. The M5OD without transfer case is 29 1/2 inches long; with BW 1345 transfer case total length is 47 inches. Distance from the front of the transmission to the center of the cross-member is 25 inches.

My C-6 measurements may not help because it is an '84 transmission and they changed the transfer case adapter length in later years. My transmission length without TC is approx. 26 inches. Maybe someone can tell you the difference in length of TC adapter for later years.

I'm using a Hurst Pro-Matic shifter with the truck length handle for gear change duties so everything will still be on the floor.

My M5OD gave me no trouble but my age and left knee condition prompted the swap. Also I had an '84 4x4 with a good motor and transmission and rusted frame, so the decision was fairly easy.

My M5OD is on craigslist right now but no bites yet.
 
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Old Oct 1, 2015 | 02:34 PM
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The transmission has been bad about leaking from the transfer case adapter and the whole thing is warped from using it to realign a stacker (so proud it actually did it) and I would love a ZF5 but it's not going to happen is there a stand alone controller for an e4od
 
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Old Oct 1, 2015 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by whisler
To OP: I'm taking out an M5OD and putting in C-6 in my 89 F250 4X4 so I may have some measurements that will help. The M5OD without transfer case is 29 1/2 inches long; with BW 1345 transfer case total length is 47 inches. Distance from the front of the transmission to the center of the cross-member is 25 inches.

My C-6 measurements may not help because it is an '84 transmission and they changed the transfer case adapter length in later years. My transmission length without TC is approx. 26 inches. Maybe someone can tell you the difference in length of TC adapter for later years.

I'm using a Hurst Pro-Matic shifter with the truck length handle for gear change duties so everything will still be on the floor.

My M5OD gave me no trouble but my age and left knee condition prompted the swap. Also I had an '84 4x4 with a good motor and transmission and rusted frame, so the decision was fairly easy.

My M5OD is on craigslist right now but no bites yet.
I thought only f150s came with the m5od. Did someone swap one into your truck or is one of us mistaken?
 
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Old Oct 1, 2015 | 05:07 PM
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Whistler, do you know when then adapter changed? My '87 Bronco has a C6. I can go measure it tomorrow if the rain ever lets up.
 
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Old Oct 1, 2015 | 05:14 PM
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What needs measured mine is out Ill go measure it it's an 89
 
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Old Oct 1, 2015 | 05:55 PM
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I thought only f150s came with the m5od. Did someone swap one into your truck or is one of us mistaken?
F250 with the semi floating 10.25 sterling under 6600 gvw with a 5.0 could end up with a m5od. I had one funny that the Sterling died first lol
 
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Old Oct 1, 2015 | 08:24 PM
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My F250 is a "light duty" with a 5.0 that leaks like a sieve. That's why the engine is coming out too. The transfer case adapter length changed but I don't know when.
 
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Old Oct 1, 2015 | 09:53 PM
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I still cant believe so many people having issues with there mazda mine has 297,000 hard miles on it even towing alot hell my zf lost reverse at 186,000
For what it's worth I realize it's my fault it's warped but it's the third transmission I've had in the truck and it's at 330,000
 
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