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Old Jul 14, 2019 | 09:49 AM
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e4od to aode swap

so had my 2nd e40d explode had a doner truck here with the smaller aode trans so decided to try putting this in the truck i got farward 1st gear and reverse it wont shift to other gears i swapped the trans wire harness to the aode . the only one that dont match is the 2pin plug that goes into the manual transfer case what am i missing to get this small trans to shift.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2019 | 10:01 AM
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If you didn't swap the flexplate to match the AODE (4R70W) transmission, then the transmission is probably shot.

The E4OD and C6 share the same flexplate, the 4R70W and AOD share the same I believe, but you can't use the flexplate of an AOD or 4R70W With an E4OD or C6. You needed a flexplate for the 351(I assume this was your engine or 4.9) and AODE or 4R70W transmission.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2019 | 10:05 AM
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i did not swap felx plate as they were the same width it is 5.8 liter the trans was behind a 302 so should be the same from what ive seen over the years so aod was behind 302 now behind the windsor
 
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Old Jul 14, 2019 | 10:07 AM
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Did you use the PCM out of the donor truck? But yeah timbersteel is right, you need the matching flexplate.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2019 | 10:08 AM
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i did not swap pcm is that nessesary? the flex plate was the same size 302 and 351 windsor
 
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Old Jul 14, 2019 | 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by kregalmach1
i did not swap felx plate as they were the same width it is 5.8 liter the trans was behind a 302 so should be the same from what ive seen over the years so aod was behind 302 now behind the windsor
You needed a flexplate for an '80' Crown Vic and 351. When you installed the transmission, bolted it to the engine, it shoved the TC too far back, damaging the transmission pump. Then when the engine fired up, it sent shrapnel all through the transmission.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2019 | 10:13 AM
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Here's a link that will help you. I explained it here as well.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...nly-truck.html
 
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Old Jul 14, 2019 | 10:15 AM
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so the flex plate from a windsor and a 302 are different ? same model year trucks that a for sure is what your saying
 
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Old Jul 14, 2019 | 10:19 AM
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Yes. It's a moot point if you didn't use the correct flex plate, however. Your rig a 351w?
 
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Old Jul 14, 2019 | 10:20 AM
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so the flex plate from a windsor and a 302 are different ? same model year trucks that a for sure is what your saying
Yeah they're balanced differently.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2019 | 10:22 AM
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so now i got to start over ?well hum
 
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Old Jul 14, 2019 | 10:23 AM
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yes its a windsor
 
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Old Jul 14, 2019 | 10:28 AM
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so now i got to start over ?well hum
Keep the E4OD. It's the strongest transmission available for these trucks. With a rebuild/remanufacture, it's $2500-3500. Money Well spent, and will have a warranty, Ford will have the best warranty.
Just to rebuild the 4R70W (AODE), it's going to run $1800-2500.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2019 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by kregalmach1
so had my 2nd e40d explode had a doner truck here with the smaller aode trans.....
Nitpick: E40D stands for Electronic 4 speed OverDrive not E - forty - D.

Originally Posted by timbersteel
The E4OD and C6 share the same flexplate, the 4R70W and AOD share the same I believe, but you can't use the flexplate of an AOD or 4R70W With an E4OD or C6...
As timbersteel mentioned the E4OD is based off a much stronger transmission than the 4R70W and somehow you are managing to break those.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2019 | 12:18 PM
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found one of each small one for well the complete truck small trans 500 and for an older e4od couple hundred bucks
 
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