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Old Sep 12, 2015 | 05:28 PM
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So who know 1 Cylinders engines?

I have a 15 horse Briggs motor on a 8000watt Generator

I put stabilizer in all my 5 gal gas cans before it even touched the equipment.

I have been meaning to run my generator for a 1/2 hr or so every 5-6 months but this last stint went almost a year.

I changed the oil. It starts up fine and seems to run fine but there is a cough or sputter every little bit. Wondering if this is an issue?

The choke has 3 settings. full 1/2 and off.
Full choke and it started but puffed a bunch of black smoke
1/2 choke almost after initial start and motor ran smooth
after a minute or so I went to choke off and that is when the cough started.
After 20 minutes cough was still there. Went to 1/2 choke and motor ran smooth, no cough.

Anything to be worried about? Is the carb needing to be looked at?

I do know I need to replace the air filter but it is not too bad.

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Old Sep 12, 2015 | 05:53 PM
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How does it do if you put a load on it?

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Old Sep 12, 2015 | 06:00 PM
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I had this issue myself on a kohler engine on a welder/generator. I done a complete tune up, which involved new plugs, oil, oil filter, and air filter. It still done it. It had a manual pull style choke. After this I still had to run about 1/4 choke on it. It is a carb issue for sure, maybe some trash got settled in it. I havent pulled the carb off of mine, since it still works amazing under a load and at idle, but I gotta be sweet to the choke and leave it out just a little, thats the only problem I see. I will agree with Steve and check to see how it runs under a load, but to me it is running a little lean, if you have an adjustment screw on the carburetor I would richen it up some just to prevent a carb rebuild. Let us know how it runs under an actual load, who knows, maybe you need to put some stress under it and "clear its throat" lol. Good luck!
 
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Old Sep 12, 2015 | 06:14 PM
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What I have found when you let them sit that long is you get enough build-up in the carb to reduce fuel flow. Try running some cleaner through it. This issue is really a common one and once it starts, it is hard to fix, but fortunately it doesn't usually cause a problem as long as it pulls a load.

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Old Sep 12, 2015 | 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by RV_Tech
What I have found when you let them sit that long is you get enough build-up in the carb to reduce fuel flow. Try running some cleaner through it. This issue is really a common one and once it starts, it is hard to fix, but fortunately it doesn't usually cause a problem as long as it pulls a load.

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well yes, possibly, but when I run my welder/generator (which is very rare) It runs fine, no additives or anything is ever put in it. Here we are, most of the time, if you just idle it, then its not really flowing much, so if you put it under a load, and really give it something to work for, it could clear it up in a matter of no time. Put it under the max load possible and run it like that for 20 minutes or so after a good warm up. My best guess though is if you havent done nothing but a basic idle run for 30 minutes every 6 months, load it up and make it work for a bit, if it dont clear up, time to do a carb cleaning. IMHO...
 
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Old Sep 13, 2015 | 06:10 AM
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<p>the 16 hp single Tecumseh on my miller bluestar welder did the same thing at idle with no load, but ran fine under load. a quick 1/4 turn of the air/fuel screw got rid of it.</p>
 
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Old Sep 13, 2015 | 07:02 AM
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I have a Craftsman 10HP Briggs genny, 5600 with 8600 surge and it coughs a little while idling with no load. It has a brand new carb and a new ignition module or magneto. I start mine and let it idle for about 20-30 minutes monthly but I haven't loaded it in quite a while.

Mine has four choke settings but no carb adjustments at all. Sometimes running on just under full open is better.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2015 | 07:06 AM
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The cough at idle is typical with the stuff I work on. Both my Yahmahas to it as do a good percentage of the Onans I deal with. It can be maddening trying to tune it out, but they do just fine once they are loaded. I have found this with both mechanically governored, electrically governored, and inverter generators.
 
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<p>Steve, what do you do for the old onan screamers?</p><p>i have a 1958 20 hp CCK 10 KW gen-set. it has two speeds, 3,600 rpm, or off.</p>
 
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<p>Steve, what do you do for the old onan screamers?</p><p>i have a 1958 20 hp CCK 10 KW gen-set. it has two speeds, 3,600 rpm, or off.</p>
Tom,

The old genset operate at a fixed RPM, unlike the more modern inverter models so frequency depends on the RPM. Change the RPM and you will change the frequency so there is not much you can do. In their defense, it has often seemed to me the older models picked up the load more quickly and were less likely to stall out if they were loaded suddenly.

I run a small air compressor off my service truck on a Yamaha that should not have a problem with the load, but sometimes it will overload two or three times before it will take the compressor.

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Old Sep 13, 2015 | 10:29 AM
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<p>i know what you mean. that old monster will power anything i throw at it without even faltering.</p><p>i have yet to find anything that will even come close to it. and htat is the only reason i still hang on to it.</p><p>after hurricane sandy it ran nonstop for 9 days except for when i shut it down to change the oil every 100 hours.</p>
 
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