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Old Sep 9, 2015 | 08:13 PM
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Clearly you know what you are doing. You have ruled out distributor and timing chain wobble from your posts.
The parts guys are on it, methinks. Get quality stuff inside the distributor per Jeff, tune, and recheck with the timing light. The wobble must go away. Clearly, your problem is now ignition.
I think you are close to done.

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Old Sep 9, 2015 | 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by ultraranger
For whatever it's worth, a couple of weeks back, my truck started cutting out really bad on my way to work. It acted just like a fuel problem. End of the work day, I stumbled the truck back towards home when it died at the intersection of a stop light, 8 blocks from home. I had to drag the truck to the house. (Urrrrrhhhhh!!!!)

I let the truck (and myself) completely cool off. I eliminated it being fuel related when I put my timing light on and just observed its flashes. As long as the engine was cold, the timing light had a steady rhythm. Once the engine reached operating temperature though, the flashes became irattic. After a couple of more minutes, the light was off more than it was on and then the engine died.

I had put brand new points and condenser on just 4 or 5 months earlier (parts from O'Reilly's). The points and condenser have a lifetime warranty so, they replaced them with new ones for free. I also bought a second set of points and condenser.

I put the new condenser on and the engine fired right up. With the timing light hooked up, I just watched the flashes. The engine got up to operating temperature and the engine didn't cut out. I wrapped on the accelerator several times and the engine revved freely with no stumbling, missing or cutting out.

I took that condenser off (since I knew it was good) and put it in the glove box, along with the new set of points. I put the extra condenser on I had bought and tested it out. It worked fine too (at least for now) and it's still on there.

I could shake the bad condenser and hear the guts of it flopping around inside the housing. It was shorting out to the case.

Condenser Failure in Conventional Ignition Systems
That sounds a lot like my issue, although once it starts acting like this, I have to replace the condenser to get it to run normal again.
 
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Old Sep 9, 2015 | 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by CougarJohn
Clearly you know what you are doing. You have ruled out distributor and timing chain wobble from your posts.
The parts guys are on it, methinks. Get quality stuff inside the distributor per Jeff, tune, and recheck with the timing light. The wobble must go away. Clearly, your problem is now ignition.
I think you are close to done.

Report back.

Semper Fi
I wouldn't say I know what I am doing very well. But I have owned/maintained FE360's and FE390's for the last 24 years. This one has me stumped and feeling quite inadequate. lol


I hope it is just a part issue. It's just not something obvious.
 
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Old Sep 9, 2015 | 08:50 PM
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Ignition Troubles. Please Help!

I have little help except that I just switched from points to an hei distributor amd the difference is noticable. Not sure about mpg but it accelerates smoother and starts much better. Just my .02 but I am with gangstr that a night on the couch won't hurt too bad and if you wear the welding helmet any damage will not be permanent.
 
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Old Sep 10, 2015 | 06:12 AM
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For $70 at amazon for the Pertronix unit that will cure all your problems forever; it would be worth it on the couch for me.
 
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Old Sep 10, 2015 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Alex from GA
For $70 at amazon for the Pertronix unit that will cure all your problems forever; it would be worth it on the couch for me.

Phenix, Don't listen to these guys. Look your bride in the eye and tell her, This WILL fix it! (now don't smirk) Honey, we'll take it out in trade when the part comes in, unless you don't work on credit and I'm forced to do the trade now!


No couch in your future
 
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Old Sep 10, 2015 | 12:29 PM
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Put the couch in the garage! Then it's not so bad.
 
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Old Sep 10, 2015 | 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by TeachNlive4ever
Phenix, Don't listen to these guys. Look your bride in the eye and tell her, This WILL fix it! (now don't smirk) Honey, we'll take it out in trade when the part comes in, unless you don't work on credit and I'm forced to do the trade now!


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Apparently you have not been married long enough! Still in the honeymoon phase
 
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Old Sep 10, 2015 | 12:41 PM
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Workin on 21 years Brah!!!!!
 
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Old Sep 10, 2015 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by ultraranger
For whatever it's worth, a couple of weeks back, my truck started cutting out really bad on my way to work. It acted just like a fuel problem. End of the work day, I stumbled the truck back towards home when it died at the intersection of a stop light, 8 blocks from home. I had to drag the truck to the house. (Urrrrrhhhhh!!!!)

I let the truck (and myself) completely cool off. I eliminated it being fuel related when I put my timing light on and just observed its flashes. As long as the engine was cold, the timing light had a steady rhythm. Once the engine reached operating temperature though, the flashes became irattic. After a couple of more minutes, the light was off more than it was on and then the engine died.

I had put brand new points and condenser on just 4 or 5 months earlier (parts from O'Reilly's). The points and condenser have a lifetime warranty so, they replaced them with new ones for free. I also bought a second set of points and condenser.

I put the new condenser on and the engine fired right up. With the timing light hooked up, I just watched the flashes. The engine got up to operating temperature and the engine didn't cut out. I wrapped on the accelerator several times and the engine revved freely with no stumbling, missing or cutting out.

I took that condenser off (since I knew it was good) and put it in the glove box, along with the new set of points. I put the extra condenser on I had bought and tested it out. It worked fine too (at least for now) and it's still on there.

I could shake the bad condenser and hear the guts of it flopping around inside the housing. It was shorting out to the case.

Condenser Failure in Conventional Ignition Systems

Bad condenser #1,785,497 on this forum in the past couple of years. Dang China crap.
 
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Old Sep 10, 2015 | 12:59 PM
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What I have learned is point and condisors are more likely to short out when one gets in the dizzy with a screw driver without disconnecting the battery.
 
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