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Old Jul 26, 2015 | 10:35 PM
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Does anybody know why I'd get a spark arching from both the positive and negative terminals of the coil to the coil wire when I disconnect a spark plug wire from the spark plug? Primarily the arch comes from the negative side but I did see it arch from the positive side a few times. It doesn't matter which spark plug wire I disconnect ... the results are the same. And when all spark plug wires are connected I do not get any arching.

 
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Old Jul 26, 2015 | 11:08 PM
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Electricity, about 35,000 Volts, is finding the shortest path to ground.
 
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Old Jul 26, 2015 | 11:21 PM
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Carry on my wayward spark,
There'll be peace when it is dark
Lay your weary watts to rest
Don't you arc no more!
 
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Old Jul 27, 2015 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by HIO Silver
Electricity, about 35,000 Volts, is finding the shortest path to ground.
hmmm. maybe I should reword my question:

Is this normal, and if not, what might I do to resolve it?

Matt
 
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Old Jul 27, 2015 | 02:37 PM
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Yes, Matt. What you see is what is expected from an open secondary. As Hio said, the arc will go to the shortest path to ground.
When the points break, the collapsing field lines in the coil secondary send the voltage to something like infinity. The spark plug acts as a clamp. That is a .035 gap. Without that clamp you will get an arc somewhere. As far as the coil is concerned at these voltages, a zero volt - primary hookup on the coil is same-same as the + 12 volt hookup. Hence an arc.
It is never good to disconnect a secondary wire and let it arc. In old systems it can perforate the condenser; in modern stuff it can send a transient into aftermarket radios, CD players, ignition modules... Stuff with transistors.
If you want to disconnect the secondary for something like a compression test, take a short length of wire and ground the center terminal on the coil. If you want to test an individual plug wire, hook it to an old plug outside the engine and ground the loop of wire on the plug to a valve cover or something and look for arc.
Never allow an open secondary.
 
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Old Jul 27, 2015 | 07:12 PM
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Ok, Cracker289 that is the funniest post I have read on here to date! Hands down the best!
 
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Ok, Cracker289 that is the funniest post I have read on here to date! Hands down the best!
 
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Had the song stuck in my head for the rest of the day, thanks a million Cracker...
 
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Clean that tower up and get a new coil wire with new boots.
All of that dirt combined with a bad boot and wire will cause the arcing that you describe.



Originally Posted by HangtownMatt
Does anybody know why I'd get a spark arching from both the positive and negative terminals of the coil to the coil wire when I disconnect a spark plug wire from the spark plug? Primarily the arch comes from the negative side but I did see it arch from the positive side a few times. It doesn't matter which spark plug wire I disconnect ... the results are the same. And when all spark plug wires are connected I do not get any arching.

 
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Old Jul 28, 2015 | 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Millam
Clean that tower up and get a new coil wire with new boots.
All of that dirt combined with a bad boot and wire will cause the arcing that you describe.
I was planning on replacing the spark plug and coil wires, but didn't CougarJohn say this was normal?

And for the record I replaced the points/condenser with a Petronix a long long time ago if that makes a difference.

I appreciate everyone who's taken the time to reply.

Thanks,

Matt
 
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