Programming a new key.....
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Pocket,
I completely got what you were saying and I am going to try that 2011-2014 button less key from Ford for my 2015. No pain, no gain. So thank you.
Yes I see there maybe a confirmed aftermarket solution.
I completely got that dealers can't see info on aftermarket alternatives or even the mfg that make stuff Ford sells as Ford. Yes, a few at dealership may know because they dug deep, but not many, so it takes a few willing to take a leap of faith to find out. So thank you, both of you, but I will go with oem.
On my 2011 I too had a 4th non button key, that after programming, and when subsequently used to start and drive the truck, momentarily upon startup displayed the "ignition system failure" error message reported a few posts back. As near as I could tell, it worked fine, but always made me nervous. Any ideas what the error message means or what might happen if it happens with 2015 and I ignore it?
Also, if I have two original oem 4 button keys, plus one 2011-2014 all programmed and working on my 2015 without the"ignition sys failure" message, and I lose one oem 4-button key, can I use the two remaining to program a new 4-button key? Given what you know about the cheap key on the 2015, I know your answer will understandably be "I do not know." so, my real question is - would it work if I had all the keys with a 2014?
I completely got what you were saying and I am going to try that 2011-2014 button less key from Ford for my 2015. No pain, no gain. So thank you.
Yes I see there maybe a confirmed aftermarket solution.
I completely got that dealers can't see info on aftermarket alternatives or even the mfg that make stuff Ford sells as Ford. Yes, a few at dealership may know because they dug deep, but not many, so it takes a few willing to take a leap of faith to find out. So thank you, both of you, but I will go with oem.
On my 2011 I too had a 4th non button key, that after programming, and when subsequently used to start and drive the truck, momentarily upon startup displayed the "ignition system failure" error message reported a few posts back. As near as I could tell, it worked fine, but always made me nervous. Any ideas what the error message means or what might happen if it happens with 2015 and I ignore it?
Also, if I have two original oem 4 button keys, plus one 2011-2014 all programmed and working on my 2015 without the"ignition sys failure" message, and I lose one oem 4-button key, can I use the two remaining to program a new 4-button key? Given what you know about the cheap key on the 2015, I know your answer will understandably be "I do not know." so, my real question is - would it work if I had all the keys with a 2014?
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From: Tallassee, ALabama
As long as you have 2 any style working keys for you vehicle, you can program a third. And you can use a 4-button and a non 4-button to program a new 4-button key.
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On my 2011 I too had a 4th non button key, that after programming, and when subsequently used to start and drive the truck, momentarily upon startup displayed the "ignition system failure" error message reported a few posts back. As near as I could tell, it worked fine, but always made me nervous. Any ideas what the error message means or what might happen if it happens with 2015 and I ignore it?
Also, if I have two original oem 4 button keys, plus one 2011-2014 all programmed and working on my 2015 without the"ignition sys failure" message, and I lose one oem 4-button key, can I use the two remaining to program a new 4-button key? Given what you know about the cheap key on the 2015, I know your answer will understandably be "I do not know." so, my real question is - would it work if I had all the keys with a 2014?
Now if one key is giving you a fault, then it depends on the fault itself whether or not the system will program another key. It should work, but there's no guarantee that it will.
When you're down to less than two keys and you're trying to add another, that's when a trip to the dealer will be necessary. God help you if you lose all your keys, the task of getting all new keys without an existing key is a nightmare for dealers. So many hoops and red tape they have to juggle with Ford just to get a key code authorization. Plus you'll have to provide all the proof in the world of ownership and who you are, and don't rule out blood, urine, and stool samples......
Post Fiend
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A dealer and/or a locksmith can program new keys for the vehicle even if you have none. The process used is identical to when you have only one key.
The IDS or locksmith computer hook up erases the keys from memory and then it resets the key info stored in the ECM. It asks you to insert the new keys at certain intervals in the process. You need two keys for this process so the dealer or locksmith will have to cut two unprogrammed keys prior to start of the process or one key if you are only adding a second key.
It is not difficult, just time consuming. Takes about 30 minutes to do it.
The IDS or locksmith computer hook up erases the keys from memory and then it resets the key info stored in the ECM. It asks you to insert the new keys at certain intervals in the process. You need two keys for this process so the dealer or locksmith will have to cut two unprogrammed keys prior to start of the process or one key if you are only adding a second key.
It is not difficult, just time consuming. Takes about 30 minutes to do it.
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From: Klamath Falls, OR
The "ignition system failure" message is a somewhat general message. A tech would have to get in there and see what is actually causing the fault, so I couldn't really give you a good idea as to what it was. But if it worked and the vehicle still started, then no harm was done. It just detected some fault with the key and displayed an error is all.
As long as you have two programmed and working keys, you can program a third key just using the key cycling instructions in this thread.
Now if one key is giving you a fault, then it depends on the fault itself whether or not the system will program another key. It should work, but there's no guarantee that it will.
When you're down to less than two keys and you're trying to add another, that's when a trip to the dealer will be necessary. God help you if you lose all your keys, the task of getting all new keys without an existing key is a nightmare for dealers. So many hoops and red tape they have to juggle with Ford just to get a key code authorization. Plus you'll have to provide all the proof in the world of ownership and who you are, and don't rule out blood, urine, and stool samples......
As long as you have two programmed and working keys, you can program a third key just using the key cycling instructions in this thread.
Now if one key is giving you a fault, then it depends on the fault itself whether or not the system will program another key. It should work, but there's no guarantee that it will.
When you're down to less than two keys and you're trying to add another, that's when a trip to the dealer will be necessary. God help you if you lose all your keys, the task of getting all new keys without an existing key is a nightmare for dealers. So many hoops and red tape they have to juggle with Ford just to get a key code authorization. Plus you'll have to provide all the proof in the world of ownership and who you are, and don't rule out blood, urine, and stool samples......
Last edited by Justin Longacre; Apr 11, 2018 at 08:29 AM. Reason: incomplete
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