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Old Jul 1, 2015 | 02:16 AM
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A/C dead, relay change?

hey Folks,


my Aircondition doesnt work. (cargo 97' 330cui)


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-turned the Switch= nothing happens


-went to my friend, filled and tested the System. it wasnt empty, no pressure loss nothing.


-bypassed the pressure Switch, nothing happens.


-then removed the plug from the A/C compressor and give the magnetic clutch 12V via external battery. it works.


-started the engine with the closed clutch.


-very cold into 1 Minute


so i belive in a relay that gives power to the magnetic clutch. where is this relay ? i checked haynes rep. man. but the wiring diagram wasnt a help


maybe the Switch in the Cockpit is dead?


would be thankful for some ideas!
 
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Old Jul 1, 2015 | 06:10 AM
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Owner's manual here for free:
Owner Manuals | fleet.ford.com

Should have the relay location to see if the switch or relay is the problem.
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Old Jul 4, 2015 | 01:41 PM
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Hey jim,
Thanks for the awsome Tip. Problem is, there is no relay in this Manuel For ac. only a fuse, i checked, its ok.
how could this be? know about 2relay's in a chevy astro 😔
folks i need a tip please 👀
 
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Old Jul 4, 2015 | 02:17 PM
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There is a A/C Comp Clutch Relay listed at NAPA Auto Parts online. ECH AR671 for $18.49, it's fairly small and looks like it could be inline on the Wire Harness somewhere. And I found a A/C Control Relay ECH AR272 that looks like it's in a Fuse Block or Power Dist Box $16.49..........
 
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Old Jul 5, 2015 | 04:42 AM
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Originally Posted by econolinemanor
There is a A/C Comp Clutch Relay listed at NAPA Auto Parts online. ECH AR671 for $18.49, it's fairly small and looks like it could be inline on the Wire Harness somewhere. And I found a A/C Control Relay ECH AR272 that looks like it's in a Fuse Block or Power Dist Box $16.49..........
Could this be the WOT relay that drops the A/C clutch during WOT? I think that relay is inline, maybe mounted below the distribution box?
Just guessing.
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Old Jul 5, 2015 | 04:52 AM
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whats WOT?
 
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Old Jul 5, 2015 | 08:28 AM
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whats WOT?
Wide open throttle. The AC compressor shuts off when you put your foot on the floor to give a bit more engine power.

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Old Jul 6, 2015 | 09:45 AM
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o really? never heard about that :O but ok i will try to find this relay and check it.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2015 | 02:24 PM
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i had a look for the damn relay. havnt found it. i was following the wires behind the engine near the doghouse. nothing. im not able to find this god damn AC relay -.- why is it not in the relay box or written down in the Ownermanual or rep. Manual
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maybe somebody has some wiring diagrams?
 
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Old Jul 10, 2015 | 10:45 AM
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Since you're doing much of your own electrical diagnosis and repair I'd strongly recommend buying a factory manual or EVTM for your year van body/chassis.

Along with showing the actual wiring paths there are component location guides to show you here different things are actually located.

Here in the USA AutoZone has free schematics but you have to register which is very easy pain free.

HTH
 
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Old Jul 14, 2015 | 02:41 PM
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mean something like this? http://www.ebay.com/itm/351378925151?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&fromMakeTrack=true

it Shows me a shipment about 23$! maybe it will be cheaper if somebody will send it to me? of course i will pay first
 
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Old Aug 13, 2015 | 11:45 AM
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still nobody knows the Location of the A/C relay? :,(
 
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Old Aug 13, 2015 | 01:07 PM
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still nobody knows the Location of the A/C relay? :,(
The schematic you need might be available free of charge through Autozone.com. You'll have to register (give them an email address) but afterwards you'd have access to their library.

PM me about sending you an EVTM---glad to do it for anyone in need of service documents, especially not living in the USA.
 
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