Does an Android EGT gauge exist?
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Does an Android EGT gauge exist?
I'm running Torque Pro and like the idea of software gauges.
I'm going to install dual EGT gauges in the exhaust manifolds and would really like some kind of software gauge.
I don't think there's any way to hook into torque pro, but I'm thinking there may be some other product out there. Has anyone seen anything?
Here's a list of interesting finds:
I'm going to install dual EGT gauges in the exhaust manifolds and would really like some kind of software gauge.
I don't think there's any way to hook into torque pro, but I'm thinking there may be some other product out there. Has anyone seen anything?
Here's a list of interesting finds:
- Kiwi 2 OBD2 OBDII Wireless Bluetooth Diagnostic Scanner | Android
- EGT Exhaust Gas Thermo Temperature Probe Sensor Module
- The above goes 32-1873 degrees and should interface to the IBDII device
- https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/v...p?f=93&t=18138
- Low level Rasberry pi a/d converter
- Arduino - another prototype board system like the pi
- https://moosh.im/mooshimeter/
- Android Digital Multimeter ~$120
- Wireless Multifunction DAQ Device with Android and Windows Support - Measurement Computing
- Data acq device
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All it takes is a device that converts one or more 0-5 volt signals to digital, then have a network interface - be it LAN, WiFi, BT, or even USB. There are a gajillion of these for industrial and laboratory applications, but I haven't looked for an inexpensive consumer-grade unit. I guess the best search strings would be "5 volt a/d converter" and something to do with a network, like WiFi and Bluetooth. You might even find "wireless automotive gauges".
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This looks really interesting.
PLX Kiwi 2 Bluetooth adapter : $69
Bluetooth adapter, should work with Torque Pro
PLX Kiwi 2 iMFD Adapter : $49.99
Adapter for additional devices - needed if you want to interface to more that one eternal device
PLX - EGT Sensor Module $99 each. This is the probe as well as a box to hook to the probe to convert data.
Then in theory it can integrate with Torque and gauges, sensors, alarms and logging should all work just as they do with OBDII.
There is some question right now as to whether logging works. I've asked on the torque forum if that has been resolved.
Does anyone have experience with PLX sensors, OBDII adapters, etc?
Here's what I found so far:
PLX Kiwi 2 Bluetooth adapter : $69
Bluetooth adapter, should work with Torque Pro
PLX Kiwi 2 iMFD Adapter : $49.99
Adapter for additional devices - needed if you want to interface to more that one eternal device
PLX - EGT Sensor Module $99 each. This is the probe as well as a box to hook to the probe to convert data.
Then in theory it can integrate with Torque and gauges, sensors, alarms and logging should all work just as they do with OBDII.
There is some question right now as to whether logging works. I've asked on the torque forum if that has been resolved.
Does anyone have experience with PLX sensors, OBDII adapters, etc?
Here's what I found so far:
I tried the PLX gauges a few years ago on a gasser. It was really a mess. ODBII gauges were hinky and unstable 
I spent 2 days messing around and contacting them before buying a cheap bluetooth ELM that worked perfectly the first time with torque free and pro and made the switch. I returned the gauges. DM-200, IIRC. (To be clear, I was trying to use them standalone, not with Torque)
I like the idea of their products, but have been gunshy of them since. Then there is the whole "Legion" naming thing that makes me steer clear, too
I spent 2 days messing around and contacting them before buying a cheap bluetooth ELM that worked perfectly the first time with torque free and pro and made the switch. I returned the gauges. DM-200, IIRC. (To be clear, I was trying to use them standalone, not with Torque)
I like the idea of their products, but have been gunshy of them since. Then there is the whole "Legion" naming thing that makes me steer clear, too
Has anyone tried the PLX KIWI 2 with torque? Super disappointed that it causes my truck to stall. Hoping there is a work-around: I tried deleting all added PIDs and reloaded app, but no matter what it causes engine stalls (on all my Android devicess). Shame, bringing my EGT in as an analog input is cool, but can't live with the stalls. Dashcommand works ok, but I am not a fan of the limited PIDs.
Torque Pro works great. The weak link is how cheap you want to go on the OBDII Bluetooth adapter. Cheap ones have terrible bandwidth and do not transmit fast enough or have terrible connectivity. I did not buy the PLX Kiwi "computer" version but I did buy the PLX KIWI OBDII Bluetooth transmitter a couple of years ago and it's been a champ. I think they're on the KIWI 2 now. I spent just under $100 back in the day for it (on Amazon). Top price when this boom started but it's been well worth the investment. I have an old cell phone (nothing as cool as Tugly) mounted on my windshield and 7 pages of meters, gages and information at the flick of a finger. I would hazard that I've got 40+ indications active (about 7 or 8 on some individual pages) and they respond smoothly without a jump or hiccup. The Torque Pro app is a steal at $5 considering what it can do. At any one time I've probably got about $1000 worth of gages to look at. As long as you get a good OBDII Bluetooth you won't be disappointed.
Just my .02
Just my .02
Most of the cheap 20-30$ ones you can get for 7$ directly from china at aliexpress.com (1month shipping)
I ordered one from amazon and it caused a crank no start in my truck and chrysler 300. I decided not to screw around anymore and picked up the PLX Kiwi (90$). I don't know about it's bitrate but it's never had issues for me.
I ordered one from amazon and it caused a crank no start in my truck and chrysler 300. I decided not to screw around anymore and picked up the PLX Kiwi (90$). I don't know about it's bitrate but it's never had issues for me.
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I went with the OBDLink MX. The quality in the construction alone is very telling to me. When I was researching this, I found a ton of support online and by phone. The software that comes with it is very respectable, but I like Torque Pro over everything I tried, and I tried most of the "legitimate" OBDII apps.
The website for Scantool [LINK] lists the protocol for our trucks (J1850 PWM) right on their specs for the OBDLink MX, and you can order a Ford Enhanced bundle with their Scan XL software.
As for an A/D converter and interface, I don't know what to say on that without digging in. I can say I have a clean dash with just three gauge faces and Torque Pro collecting what it's good at. I have some homework to do the next few hours I'm awake and not at work, but I might be able to squeeze this into my list.
The website for Scantool [LINK] lists the protocol for our trucks (J1850 PWM) right on their specs for the OBDLink MX, and you can order a Ford Enhanced bundle with their Scan XL software.
As for an A/D converter and interface, I don't know what to say on that without digging in. I can say I have a clean dash with just three gauge faces and Torque Pro collecting what it's good at. I have some homework to do the next few hours I'm awake and not at work, but I might be able to squeeze this into my list.
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I've been giving this some thought, and I see some real problems. If the Kiwi system is reliable, this could work. If not, then we are all trapped by the nature of portable devices - they don't multitask like a PC. You can't use Torque to display OBDII gauges, then another app to display EGTs and fuel pressure simultaneously.
The only other solution I can think of is to have a background app monitor the a/d converter outputs with alarm function only (EGTs too high or fuel pressure too low) and an OBDII gauge to watch the other data live.
This is one of those cases where Infinity would exceed the capabilities of most other options.
More homework is needed, but this is what I have so far.
The only other solution I can think of is to have a background app monitor the a/d converter outputs with alarm function only (EGTs too high or fuel pressure too low) and an OBDII gauge to watch the other data live.
This is one of those cases where Infinity would exceed the capabilities of most other options.
More homework is needed, but this is what I have so far.
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I've been giving this some thought, and I see some real problems. If the Kiwi system is reliable, this could work. If not, then we are all trapped by the nature of portable devices - they don't multitask like a PC. You can't use Torque to display OBDII gauges, then another app to display EGTs and fuel pressure simultaneously.
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You mean this:
http://www.dp-tuner.com/ford-powerst...c-tools-1.html
Looks good, but a little too pricy for me.
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Thanks for sharing.
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I send PLX an email saying that I need it all to work well and be stable when used with a 7.3 Ford Powerstroke and Torque - without getting stuck between 2 vendors pointing fingers to each other. Then I asked about their return policy if it doesn't meet my needs. No response yet...
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Did you try this number? 408 745 7591
When I had trouble, they were responsive and even helpful. Just didn't have the product stability at the time.
Since we don't have a true OBDII system, you likely won't find much love in the way of support from mainstream products ;(
When I had trouble, they were responsive and even helpful. Just didn't have the product stability at the time.
Since we don't have a true OBDII system, you likely won't find much love in the way of support from mainstream products ;(
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Did you try this number? 408 745 7591
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This is what I have now. I think it's a great product. Stable/fast and you know they put some effort into the hardware with the auto sleep and wake functions.
I ended up talking with the PLX folks. They said it will work and if I have problems they will work with me to resolve them. They said if we cannot get it to work that I can return the parts if they are in like new condition. I was still chicken to fork over the money for all the pieces at once, so decided to order the OBD part first. I'll run that in the truck for a while with Torque. If it seems good, I'll order one or both egt gauges.
I ended up talking with the PLX folks. They said it will work and if I have problems they will work with me to resolve them. They said if we cannot get it to work that I can return the parts if they are in like new condition. I was still chicken to fork over the money for all the pieces at once, so decided to order the OBD part first. I'll run that in the truck for a while with Torque. If it seems good, I'll order one or both egt gauges.
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That's a sound plan. In addition, since you already have the MX as a reference to compare for performance/reliability - much can be learned here. I don't recall anybody trying anything else after getting the MX.
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Now why would you expect to find a way to CONTACT them on the "Contact" page 
LOL.
I'm watching, too, to see how you make out. Please keep us informed
LOL.I'm watching, too, to see how you make out. Please keep us informed
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I have the PLX Kiwi (the one before the Kiwi 2) and it's been running like a champ for two years and counting (got it for about $90 on Amazon "back in the day"). No delays or issues and I'm running 7 pages of gages on my Torque Pro and upwards of 8 gages per page and the needles/numbers sweep fast and smooth.
