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Jun 8, 2015 | 02:28 PM

Louisville Joe

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Before anyone starts flaming this, just consider the idea first. No question the Raptor is the best factory off-road truck that has ever been, and probably ever will be. But like anything, there is always room for improvement, and probably the best place for improving the Raptor is under the hood. We are all aware of the 5.4's limitations and various issues, and though the 6.2 is a big improvement, it seems to be something of an orphan now. Other than a couple of turbo and supercharger kits there isn't much out there for this engine, and now that it has been dropped I don't expect the aftermarket to put much more effort in it. The rumored 7.0 version never happened.

Here's the idea: GM LS swap. Looks like a nice fit, limitless potential, many transmission choices. Crate engines, stand alone electronics, lots of aftermarket. Imagine a plug and play supercharged 6.2 LS.

This would be directed more towards older Raptors with 5.4's. I know some guys that have been talking about this. I personally don't like 'cross breeds' (except in the case of '56 pickups) but this might have a lot of potential.

Jun 8, 2015 | 03:50 PM

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A supercharger on a 6.2L would be plenty on a street driven pickup. Procharger did an article with a Ford and GM 6.2L with superchargers on them and claimed over 500 horsepower and over 480 ft/lbs of torque. That's pretty nuts.
Link to the article:
Procharger's 6.2L Battle - Ford Raptor VS GMC Sierra - Boosted - Truckin Magazine

Jun 8, 2015 | 07:28 PM

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Gee ... What a novel idea - A supercharged Raptor. Wonder why noone thought of that before?

OH WAIT! that's right they did ...

ROUSH
Shelby
Hennessey

And Ya! I'm one of those cross-breed haters (and there is no exception even in the case of 1950's F-1s / F-100's).

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Jun 8, 2015 | 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by gDMJoe

Gee ... What a novel idea - A supercharged Raptor. Wonder why noone thought of that before?

OH WAIT! that's right they did ...

ROUSH
Shelby
Hennessey

And Ya! I'm one of those cross-breed haters (and there is no exception even in the case of 1950's F-1s / F-100's).

.

-click- the pic'
Goth 150
< This space intentionally -blank- >

Beg my pardon for not trying to reinvent the wheel for power.

Jun 9, 2015 | 12:17 AM

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This is a hot topic amongst hot rod guys.......personally I wouldn't care why not replace an under powered 5.4 with an LS engine with unlimited build potential. ....it's a motor

Jun 9, 2015 | 05:54 AM

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Personally, I'd rather see some variant of the 5.2L flat plane crank engine that's going into the GT350, at a naturally aspirated 526HP. Now THAY would be nuts in the Raptor. Probably would cost a pretty penny, but everything gets LS swapped these days... just sick of seeing it. Plus not a fan of the "cross-breads" as mentioned.

Engine info: https://media.ford.com/content/fordm...0-mustang.html

Jun 9, 2015 | 07:02 AM

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The LS family has so many available parts and options it is crazy. Having said that, integrating the vehicle's existing electronics to talk to the LS motor isn't a walk in the park by any means. In my former life as a Toyota FJ Cruiser owner there was one member who swapped in a LS1. The FJ is pretty basic electronics wise. Especially in '07 with non chipped keys. It took some work but he was able to do it. I don't know how much more involved it would be to get the Raptor electronics to work but it seems it would be way more cost effective to improve the existing 5.4.

On a side note, the owner of the company I work for just purchased a new Raptor. I am not brand loyal but he has always been a Ford man. the 6.2 did not quite have enough power for his 70 years young soul and had the dealer order up the Roush supercharger. At 590hp it puts a smile on his face every time he drives it.

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Jun 14, 2015 | 05:59 AM

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One of the higher-ups where I work has a supercharged 6.2L Raptor. I talked to him briefly, he claimed 608hp and around 8mpg

Jun 14, 2015 | 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by D8chumley

One of the higher-ups where I work has a supercharged 6.2L Raptor. I talked to him briefly, he claimed 608hp and around 8mpg

My company's owner's truck is probably right around there with exhaust. The Roush supercharger kit claims 590 hp and torque. He said the computer is actually telling him he is getting around 14 mpg. His mpg improved with the supercharger but of course allot depends on how you drive it.

Jun 14, 2015 | 04:06 PM

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Next time I run into him I'll ask more details, like what brand SC and more about mods and mpg

Jun 14, 2015 | 05:28 PM

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Hold out for a 2017 raptor with the 3.5L and get factory 450 HP. More than enough power to move that beast.

Jun 16, 2015 | 05:02 PM

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Rather than swap the engine at all, take a look at this build on the F150 Forum. This guy is doing a twin turbo + supercharger build on the 5.4.

FX4 5.4 Supercharged + Twin Turbo Charged build - Ford F150 Forum - Community of Ford Truck Fans

And for those too busy (or lazy) to read through all 26 pages, he does have the engine running again though without the turbo or supercharger (yet)

FX4 5.4 Supercharged + Twin Turbo Charged build - Page 25 - Ford F150 Forum - Community of Ford Truck Fans

Jun 16, 2015 | 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DIYiT

I certainly appreciate this man's efforts, but it kind of supports the use of an LS engine, doesn't it? I think that much effort would yield better results with an LS. Remember, this swap idea would primarily be for older 5.4L Raptors. I agree the next gen. Ecoboost versions won't be needing this swap.

Jun 18, 2015 | 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Louisville Joe

Yeah it was extra effort to hop up the 5.4 vs an LS, but you also have to consider the huge under taking of swapping in an LS motor in the first place! They make super charger kits for the 5.4. That would be MUCH easier than trying swap in an entirely different drive train.