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Old Jun 2, 2015 | 10:44 PM
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Grinding while turning AND accelerating.

OK, here goes my first question. I got a 2006 f-250 with the 6.0 and 2wd with 115,000 miles.

We took a little vacation, last week, and we did some mountain driving, and I noticed a grinding noise coming from the front(you can feel it in the steering) when turning(either direction) AND accelerating. There is no noise when going straight while accelerating nor braking, and there is no noise when taking curves downhill. In those situations it is quiet as a mouse.

I've got brand new tires; I just replaced all brake pads, brake rotors, brake calipers(thanks to y'all's help!), and I put new bearings in as well. The transmission fluid and differential fluids were changed by the stealership about 15,000 miles ago, which was pretty recent, at the 100,000 mile mark.


I have NOT changed the shocks or steering stabilzer, yet, and this was planned to be my next project, but now, now I'm worried about this.

I appreciate the info.
 
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Old Jun 2, 2015 | 10:45 PM
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Follow up question, if anyone wants to tackle this:

There are no grease points on my steering linkage, or at least I can't find them. You know there are these "boots"(not sure of the proper term) where you can tell grease is supposed to be pumped into, but none of those little zerk thingies. Do I need to replace my tie rod ends and drag link with ones that have grease points?

At what mileage does one replace the bushings on the sway bars?

Again, I appreciate the information.
 
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Old Jun 2, 2015 | 11:12 PM
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Ford did not put any greasable joints for the most part.
Just replace them with ones you can grease if you want
after they start to show there age.

Things that cause growling and not in any order.
Tires
Alignment
Bad wheel bearings or ones in need of service.
Something stuck between pad and rotor
Worn out pads.

When you greased the bearings how much grease did
you work into them?



Sean
 
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Old Jun 3, 2015 | 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Yahiko
Ford did not put any greasable joints for the most part.
Just replace them with ones you can grease if you want
after they start to show there age.

Things that cause growling and not in any order.
Tires
Alignment
Bad wheel bearings or ones in need of service.
Something stuck between pad and rotor
Worn out pads.

When you greased the bearings how much grease did
you work into them?



Sean
A lot and for a long time. I tried my best to "smush" the grease into them by compressing them in the palms of my hands.
 
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Old Jun 3, 2015 | 07:01 AM
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After driving for a bit, put your hand near the hub to see if you feel some heat possibly coming from the bearings. You could jack the truck up and spin the tires as well to try and hear the grinding. My bet is pads are dragging.

If it only does it while moving, see if you can hear it at really slow speeds. Kind of dangerous, but open the door and lean out to hear. Maybe in a parking lot to be safer. Have a passenger do the same or walk beside the truck and listen. If its a rotational noise, the rules out steering linkages. Does it go up and down with engine RPM or speed? If it's speed related, its a tire, breaks, bearings....
 
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Old Jun 3, 2015 | 09:01 AM
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Yeah, I was on vacation last week. One of the days, I wanted to drive on some mountain roads, you know the ones that I can never drive on in my big truck. So, we start going up this mountain(Brass town bald, in Georgia) and as I am going up hill and turning to the left or the right you can hear this grinding and feel it in the steering wheel, as I accelerate.

Coming back down the mountain and turning left and right .... Quiet as a mouse. Oh, going up hill and straight .... No grinding. Very weird.

It did it again the next day on parts of the Blue Ridge Parkway. That's when I got a little concerned.
 
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Old Jun 3, 2015 | 09:05 AM
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Why would it not do it going down hill? What force is being applied going up hill rather than downhill? The only one I can think of is the rpm of the engine, right? So, do I have a power steering problem?
 
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Old Jun 3, 2015 | 10:35 AM
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You could be. Have someone turn the wheel with your head under the hood.
 
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I have had from time to time a "buzz" / "vibration" felt in the steering wheel when turning left to right and was told by one of our resident techs that it is the steering gear that is causing it. My truck is a 4X4 so im not sure what if any differences there would be between the 4X4 and 4X2. I haven't changed out my steering gear yet as it only does it now and then.
 
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Old Jun 3, 2015 | 06:52 PM
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This is one of those things that will be nearly impossible to find without duplicateing the conditions in which it occured. I mean it all ready changes from just going odwnhill or going straight. How you going to duplicate going up a steep grade on the flat floor of a shop?
 
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Old Jun 3, 2015 | 07:14 PM
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This is one of those things that will be nearly impossible to find without duplicateing the conditions in which it occured. I mean it all ready changes from just going odwnhill or going straight. How you going to duplicate going up a steep grade on the flat floor of a shop?
Stand up slooowly...

Replace sway bar bushing if you hear a big clunk when going over the curb from the high side to the street. When the tire drops over and the sway bar catches it, definitely a good clunk.... or you can see they are sloppy and worn out.
 
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This is also another case where you'r asking for help and using the term "stealers" will probably eliminate any of the techs, that give their time freely, from giving you any valuable insight. After all these years I've spent on these sites I'm still amazed.
 
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Old Jun 3, 2015 | 09:59 PM
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This is also another case where you'r asking for help and using the term "stealers" will probably eliminate any of the techs, that give their time freely, from giving you any valuable insight. After all these years I've spent on these sites I'm still amazed.
That's a fair point. Actually, I never heard the word until I started reading these forums. I kind of thought it was some sort of inside joke. If I've offended someone, please accept my apologies.

Perhaps, one day, we can talk about the economics of pricing at the dealership, as there must be a rational and logical reason why they charge so much. My hunch is that they want to be the equivalent of "specialists" and spend time on tough problems and not fool with simple stuff. Of course, a lot of work is warranty, so , perhaps they can afford to charge a lot for simple stuff.

Be cool.
 
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