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Old May 15, 2015 | 07:46 PM
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All I haven't changed on the front now is the brake hoses. Someone said they could be bad! I've never had that problem before but the truck did sit for 2-3 years before I got it. 25 bucks and I'll c. Thanks everyone. Once I figure it out I'll post.
 
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Old May 16, 2015 | 09:24 AM
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Before you do that, did you ever replace the caliper you couldn't get open? Also check the bleeder on the other caliper you had problems with if it is junked up and rusted on the inside it will probably have to be replaced as well. I just hate to see someone throw money at parts that are probably ok.
 
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Old May 16, 2015 | 11:42 AM
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Before you do that, did you ever replace the caliper you couldn't get open? Also check the bleeder on the other caliper you had problems with if it is junked up and rusted on the inside it will probably have to be replaced as well. I just hate to see someone throw money at parts that are probably ok.
As of right now everything on the front is new except the hoses. I put a hose on the bleeder ran it into a clear bottle with fluid covering the hose I loosened the caliper bleeder one at a time and the pedal is hard! It does not go to the floor as the rears do. So I'm beginning to think master cylinder. Or a plugged line from the master to the front somewhere. I'm waitin on my brother to help me hopefully figure it out. If and when I do I will repost. Thanks for the help.
 
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Old May 16, 2015 | 11:56 AM
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I was just checking out the brake lines from the master to the proportioning valve, it appears to have 1-2 new lines to it, could that have had new lines ran to it and never got bled right? Or how do you even bleed a proportioning valve? Or should it bled thru the calipers? Just another thought.
 
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Old May 16, 2015 | 02:56 PM
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Ok I've done some more testing. I removed the caliper from the rotor, I put a c- clamp on the caliper loose enough so when I hit the brake we could tell if the caliper moved. No movement. On either caliper. We broke the bleeder and got fluid, but no pressure to push the caliper. I'm thinking I got a stuck proportioning valve. I've tried everything to re enter it but I'm not getting any pressure to the front. I believe it is the valve. Any ideas? Thanks for any help.
 
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Old May 16, 2015 | 03:03 PM
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Why do you think it is the valve?

Crack open a few turns one front-wheel connection from the valve, then go step on the pedal and see if fluid leaks out. Close it up and test the other front-wheel connection.

You can perform the same test at the mater cylinder connections.

The master cylinder would be a single item that could be responsible and I would suspect it more than I would the valve.
 
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Old May 16, 2015 | 04:33 PM
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Ok I've done some more testing. I removed the caliper from the rotor, I put a c- clamp on the caliper loose enough so when I hit the brake we could tell if the caliper moved. No movement. On either caliper. We broke the bleeder and got fluid, but no pressure to push the caliper. I'm thinking I got a stuck proportioning valve. I've tried everything to re enter it but I'm not getting any pressure to the front. I believe it is the valve. Any ideas? Thanks for any help.
what type of flow? gravity will bring fluid, it should be squirting out, if not I agree with ctubutis, master cylinder.
 
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Old May 16, 2015 | 06:27 PM
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Yes when I bleed the calipers, the flow is good. I removed the master cylinder cap and bushed the brake slowly! The front part of the master cylinder spurted fluid up, nothing from the rear of the cylinder. So I'm not real sure of my problem. I have bled brakes for years, never have had this problem. I believe this is the first system with a proportioning valve. I'll get it or die trying lol
 
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Old May 16, 2015 | 06:29 PM
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Also, this truck sat for 2-3 years before I got it so not sure if that has anything to do with the valve or not.
 
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Old May 16, 2015 | 06:36 PM
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See if this thread helps you:

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...lve-issue.html
 
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Old May 16, 2015 | 06:57 PM
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I've checked it out,, but I'm gonna go thru it again. Thanks for all the help. Really appreciated.
 
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I know this might sound bad, but if someone did change the brake lines from the MC to the Proportioning Valve, is it possible that they flipped the lines? The front reservoir is for the rear brakes (Drum) and the rear resevoir is for the front (Disc). That will really screw things up. Dont ask how I know. Front to front, rear to rear, right???? It just will not work that way. It is bass ackwards, if you know what I meen. Thought it would be worth a look.
 
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Old May 17, 2015 | 06:16 AM
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Thanks about law it is worth checking out. I believe I put new lines on there so anything is possible. I am gonna check it out. Thanks
 
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Old May 17, 2015 | 06:17 AM
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Thanks azoutlaw. Computers!!!!
 
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Old May 17, 2015 | 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by azoutlaw
I know this might sound bad, but if someone did change the brake lines from the MC to the Proportioning Valve, is it possible that they flipped the lines? The front reservoir is for the rear brakes (Drum) and the rear resevoir is for the front (Disc). That will really screw things up. Dont ask how I know. Front to front, rear to rear, right???? It just will not work that way. It is bass ackwards, if you know what I meen. Thought it would be worth a look.
Ok azoutlaw, I checked the lines, and as far as I can tell there is no way to get them backwards, as the lines are the same diameter but the fittings into the valve are different size, so I don't see how they could have gotten switched. And any pictures I've seen of the proportioning valve of mine show front to front and rear to rear. I would have to cut the lines and change ends to get them to go the way you suggest. Maybe that's the right way but I just can't see them being switched. Thanks again it was worth checking.
 
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