Steering gearbox debate... Again...

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May 3, 2015 | 05:45 PM

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pgguru

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I am leaking at the Pitman are seal now and need a replacement.
Redhead shipped to Canada and core shipped back is just crazy money

May 3, 2015 | 06:43 PM

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Bumper to bumper lists both an A-1cardone rebuilt unit for $150 and the ACdelco rebuilt unit for $180.

Redhead is $360 I believe.

May 3, 2015 | 08:49 PM

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The brand was Lares which I found out later is rebuilt close to me in Cambridge MN...

Is Lares generally a reputable brand?

May 3, 2015 | 09:09 PM

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Is Lares generally a reputable brand?

From the research I did on them it seemed like they had a pretty good reputation , I might have just got a bad one..

May 3, 2015 | 10:21 PM

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I had the slop box as well. It was covered under an extended warranty so being in the wilderness I ended up taking it to a dealer 70 miles away. They put in a new Ford box. A little improvement but not great. It does track straight. I have not done the spring swap yet which is planned. I would not put another so called "factory box" in again. I would spend the money for a Redhead.

May 3, 2015 | 10:31 PM

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Guys, I have years on the redhead, and it solved the problem and has not let me down since. = WIN

May 3, 2015 | 10:47 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Snowseeker

Bumper to bumper lists both an A-1cardone rebuilt unit for $150 and the ACdelco rebuilt unit for $180.

Redhead is $360 I believe.

Looks like they''re around $440 not counting core charge

May 3, 2015 | 11:58 PM

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Looks like they''re around $440 not counting core charge

$356 plus core.
Being a "shop" I got mine for $295 or so. And I "prepaid" the return shipping to them on the core. I assumed they get a better shipping rate than me going into UPS off the street.

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May 4, 2015 | 12:52 AM

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Isn't the Excursion's steering ratio different than the Super Duty's steering ratio? Do the Redheads stick with the Excursion specific ratio?

May 4, 2015 | 12:59 AM

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Just answered my own question. Excursions have a steering ratio of 17.0:1 while Super Duty have two different ratios: 19.6:1(2WD) and 20.3:1(4WD).

2004 FORD EXCURSION SPECIFICATIONS - Ford-Trucks.com

2004 FORD SUPER DUTY SPECIFICATIONS - Ford-Trucks.com

For those of you that have new steering boxes, did you all ensure that you received the Excursion specific ratio?

May 4, 2015 | 01:26 AM

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From: Loveland,CO

$590.00 shipped to CO, on 4/8/2015. 200.00 core charge.

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May 4, 2015 | 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by aortizexcursion

That is a great point and personally I would actually want the "quicker" ratio from the superduty. I remember when I first got the X that the steering seemed "slowed" or was a higher ratio then what I was used to.

May 4, 2015 | 08:40 AM

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That's interesting, I had no idea about this. I will pull my invoice and inquire.

I also don't understand the price variance. They have an msrp online, I paid 25 shipping each way, and after the core was credited I'm in mine $345 dollars with a shop discount.

May 4, 2015 | 08:55 AM

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Snowseeker,

Wouldn't the quicker ratio take more actual effort at the steering wheel to turn but you get more response?

Isn't the 17-1 a quicker ration than
The super duties? It's closer to 1-1?

Think of a bicycle in high gear vs the lowest. Am I backwards on this?

May 4, 2015 | 10:07 AM

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Just a side note--I didn't know anyone else sold RedHead but RedHead

Red-Head Steering Gear Box 97-09 Ford F-250 / F-350

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