Still Throwing Codes...
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Still Throwing Codes...
Well, the 91 F-150 XLT Lariat 5.8, E4OD is still throwing a pair of codes: I disconnected the battery for 30 sec. yesterday to clear them, but it was not enough: So tonight I disconnected the battery for around 20 minutes...
Anyway, the TPS code is gone- a new TPS took care of that. The truck is running & driving well(knock wood) But- she is still throwing a 94 code, and in the saved memory showing a 15 code...
Any ideas?
Scott
Anyway, the TPS code is gone- a new TPS took care of that. The truck is running & driving well(knock wood) But- she is still throwing a 94 code, and in the saved memory showing a 15 code...
Any ideas?
Scott
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<table width="566" border="1"><tbody><tr><td align="center" width="28">94
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<table width="566" border="1"><tbody><tr><td align="center" width="28">15
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15 code is a key on engine off test code.
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AIR system inoperative – Air Injection
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No Keep Alive Memory power to PCM pin 1 or bad PCM (Memory Test Failure)
</td></tr></tbody></table>15 code is a key on engine off test code.
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Code 94: Is the AIR injection system still attached and functioning?
Code 15 is a CM only code according to my Ford book. Could be wrong....but the definition is "EEC battery powered Keep Alive Memory (KAM) test failed." This is typically triggered by removing the battery cable to clear the codes.The proper way to clear the codes, and avoid triggering this code, is to remove the test jumper during the code display.
Code 15 is a CM only code according to my Ford book. Could be wrong....but the definition is "EEC battery powered Keep Alive Memory (KAM) test failed." This is typically triggered by removing the battery cable to clear the codes.The proper way to clear the codes, and avoid triggering this code, is to remove the test jumper during the code display.
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If the TAD/TAB solenoids are still electronically connected but NO vacuum attached, code 94 will appear in the KOER test. You can just ignore it.
But if you have not disabled/disconnected the TAD/TAB solenoids, their corresponding vacuum lines to the reservoirs, or disabled/removed the smog pump, you need to VERIFY that they do indeed have no broken, brittle, melted nylon lines.
But if you have not disabled/disconnected the TAD/TAB solenoids, their corresponding vacuum lines to the reservoirs, or disabled/removed the smog pump, you need to VERIFY that they do indeed have no broken, brittle, melted nylon lines.
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If the TAD/TAB solenoids are still electronically connected but NO vacuum attached, code 94 will appear in the KOER test. You can just ignore it.
But if you have not disabled/disconnected the TAD/TAB solenoids, their corresponding vacuum lines to the reservoirs, or disabled/removed the smog pump, you need to VERIFY that they do indeed have no broken, brittle, melted nylon lines.
But if you have not disabled/disconnected the TAD/TAB solenoids, their corresponding vacuum lines to the reservoirs, or disabled/removed the smog pump, you need to VERIFY that they do indeed have no broken, brittle, melted nylon lines.
And yes- all the air pump stuff, etc. is present & operable...
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I just read that code 94 is the CCC for the E4OD and cars, its is the Air Injection.
This sounds like the MLPS may be giving you problems or false information. I'm ONLY guessing. Best bet is to start Googling for an answer. I haven't dealt with E4OD transmission's.
Maybe another poster can jump on the bandwagon.
This sounds like the MLPS may be giving you problems or false information. I'm ONLY guessing. Best bet is to start Googling for an answer. I haven't dealt with E4OD transmission's.
Maybe another poster can jump on the bandwagon.
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I just read that code 94 is the CCC for the E4OD and cars, its is the Air Injection.
This sounds like the MLPS may be giving you problems or false information. I'm ONLY guessing. Best bet is to start Googling for an answer. I haven't dealt with E4OD transmission's.
Maybe another poster can jump on the bandwagon.
This sounds like the MLPS may be giving you problems or false information. I'm ONLY guessing. Best bet is to start Googling for an answer. I haven't dealt with E4OD transmission's.
Maybe another poster can jump on the bandwagon.
I'm hoping it is something simple. I wonder if the trans fluid itself could be the problem- Its been sitting for seven or eight years... ??
Scott
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Thanks- I hadn't looked at the car side of the manual(It has two separate sections) so that may well be... "MLPS"? The code is a correct one- I just have to get under the truck again, and run an ohmmeter check through the CCC solenoid connection... If it comes out 20-30 ohms, I'm good there, and have to check the harness for a bad lead. Since I have a new harness repair section coming, I'll pull the whole harness, trace it, repair it, and still have a section with a non-latching connector to use for a test lead adapter! If the solenoid is the problem, it is a simple, but costly & time consuming fix: I have to dump the tranny fluid(on my list anyway, due to age), drop the pan & replace the solenoid package.
I'm hoping it is something simple. I wonder if the trans fluid itself could be the problem- Its been sitting for seven or eight years... ??
Scott
I'm hoping it is something simple. I wonder if the trans fluid itself could be the problem- Its been sitting for seven or eight years... ??
Scott
Quiet simply, if I work in an unknown truck that needs an oil change, fuel filter change and intake cleaned, I start with fuel filter, then, run some Techron, Seafoam, MMO, B12 Chemtool through the fuel system, and then through the intake, and then I start with a fresh oil change. Usually about 500-1000 miles and another oil change. Its all in an order with process of elimination. Just to give you an idea.
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I'll be damned.....another Fordism...completely different Code definitions for trucks versus cars. I apologize.....
Digging deeper into the TRUCK definition of Code 94 that indicates the PCM did not sense a change in the CCC solenoid when commanded. Could be as simple as a bad connection on the solenoid block. I highly doubt it's an issue caused by the Manual Lever Position Sensor (MLPS). The Solenoid block connector is located on the passenger side of the transmission behind a small heat shield. There is a reason why Ford changed the connector design in 1995..it's susceptible to water, grease, oil intrusion.
Digging deeper into the TRUCK definition of Code 94 that indicates the PCM did not sense a change in the CCC solenoid when commanded. Could be as simple as a bad connection on the solenoid block. I highly doubt it's an issue caused by the Manual Lever Position Sensor (MLPS). The Solenoid block connector is located on the passenger side of the transmission behind a small heat shield. There is a reason why Ford changed the connector design in 1995..it's susceptible to water, grease, oil intrusion.
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I'll be damned.....another Fordism...completely different Code definitions for trucks versus cars. I apologize.....
Digging deeper into the TRUCK definition of Code 94 that indicates the PCM did not sense a change in the CCC solenoid when commanded. Could be as simple as a bad connection on the solenoid block. I highly doubt it's an issue caused by the Manual Lever Position Sensor (MLPS). The Solenoid block connector is located on the passenger side of the transmission behind a small heat shield. There is a reason why Ford changed the connector design in 1995..it's susceptible to water, grease, oil intrusion.
Digging deeper into the TRUCK definition of Code 94 that indicates the PCM did not sense a change in the CCC solenoid when commanded. Could be as simple as a bad connection on the solenoid block. I highly doubt it's an issue caused by the Manual Lever Position Sensor (MLPS). The Solenoid block connector is located on the passenger side of the transmission behind a small heat shield. There is a reason why Ford changed the connector design in 1995..it's susceptible to water, grease, oil intrusion.
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If the fluid has been sitting for that long, I would highly suggest draining it and the torque converter. Check the solenoid when you drain and do whatever repairs are needed. That fluid is degraded due to age and any friction properties it had are long gone. The simple fix may just be 12-14 quarts of fresh fluid. Don't hold that to me as gospel, but you may only need to do it to rule that "Variable" out of the equation.
Quiet simply, if I work in an unknown truck that needs an oil change, fuel filter change and intake cleaned, I start with fuel filter, then, run some Techron, Seafoam, MMO, B12 Chemtool through the fuel system, and then through the intake, and then I start with a fresh oil change. Usually about 500-1000 miles and another oil change. Its all in an order with process of elimination. Just to give you an idea.
Quiet simply, if I work in an unknown truck that needs an oil change, fuel filter change and intake cleaned, I start with fuel filter, then, run some Techron, Seafoam, MMO, B12 Chemtool through the fuel system, and then through the intake, and then I start with a fresh oil change. Usually about 500-1000 miles and another oil change. Its all in an order with process of elimination. Just to give you an idea.
Thanks!
Scott
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Checked tonight, and went to clear the codes: the 94 is still there, but the 15 has converted, and is a 11 (normal- no report) now! Yay... Just need to get this CCC issue worked out, and we're golden...
Thanks!
Scott
Thanks!
Scott
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